regarding Edward Snowden, the point is being missed I suspect... [View all]

[Soylent Brice]

So I lurk mostly, and I have the fortune of getting to read a lot more than if I were posting. Some of the things I've seen posted on the Snowden/NSA debate range from rather informative to completely ridiculous.

No, you are not a libertarian by default just because you are "pro Snowden".

On the subject of that; so-called " pro Snowden" vs "anti(?)" (I guess? lol)

That's super, I don't know... immature?
I mean, really, the point is being missed I think.

Let's look at it this way:

If Snowden had leaked when GWB (shrub, fortunate son, chimpy, whichever your preference was, my personal fave was commander in thief) was in office, would we be so divided?

If it had been a republican instead of Snowden that leaked would we be even less divided and be nearly totally against this leaker?

If this had been leaked by dem or repuke during chimpy's reign would we be divided at all, or completely united because of our common enemy?

I mean, fuck, Smedley Butler would've been totally fucking railroaded by half of us if the Business Plot had taken place in the last year. Which is quite surreal and totally fucked if you really think about it.

So really, the point is this:

Why bother with who he is, what he is, how he votes, what his motives are, what actions he took afterwards, what countries he may or may not have given any info to, what reality show he likes, what he masturbates too, etc...

I don't give a shit about any of that.
Its not about him. And I don't give two fucks about the repercussions of what he does with that info now that it has been leaked. Not one damn do I give. I could care less.
Whatever happens, well guess what, that's called consequences.

I don't know, maybe our government shouldn't be doing this shit.
I know it's a novel idea, but bear with me.

I have an idea, let's not get distracted with the leaker, or the tension and calamity created from the leaks. Instead just stop for a second and concentrate on the fact that our own government is doing these things. Not just to other nations, allies, and so on.

They're doing this... to us.

We are no longer protected by our own constitution. Apparently we haven't been for quite a while. Now that we have that knowledge what do we do with it? Nothing. Absofuckinglutely nothing.
Wait, I take that back. We fight each other. Yeah, that's worse. We fight each other instead of the real problem; unchecked, unfettered, unconstitutional, widespread surveillance of American citizens.

Now, I don't know about you, but I'm kind of not cool with that.


So yeah, that's about all I have to say I guess.