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calimary

(81,222 posts)
69. Amen!
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:01 PM
May 2014

He's nothing but a disruptor now. Sour grapes because his base is evaporating - due to the damage he's caused for the sake of his own ego and his weird-ass yen to "send a message"? "Send a message" to where? Hell? 'Cause that's basically the result of his last "Send a Message" quest - when his efforts led directly to "president" bush/cheney.

There are still many here and elsewhere who insist that he had nothing to do with it, didn't have enough of an impact to cause Selection 2000, it wasn't him, it was all Gore, Gore, Gore.

Well, given - Gore didn't run as good a campaign (THANK YOU, donna brazile, you useless worthless mush-bucket!!!!) BUT everything I've seen and lamented over proves to me that if it weren't for fucking ralph nader being a spoiler and siphoning off JUST ENOUGH VOTES, it would CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY have been President Gore. nader got in there and just fucked it up enough so that bush/cheney got close enough to steal it. THAT'S ALL THEY NEEDED. To get close enough to steal it. And they knew it. And I bet they funneled money to the nader campaign to keep it alive because they knew that's what might happen if he stayed in it. They were just devious enough to think that up and do it. And nader was just the guy to help them out. His own hellish brand of "creative destruction" maybe? Well, it was straight from the bowels of Hell as we've all seen, very sadly, since. His horrifyingly expensive and self-flattering and greedy, arrogant, egomaniacal blunder became OURS to have to pay for.

And I, for one, will never forget that, OR forgive it. Well, maybe someday I can get to the forgive part ('cause Our Lord says that's what we're supposed to do). But I'll never trust or support ralph nader again. I remember him saying, at the time, that he believed things would have to get BAD ENOUGH to affect REAL change. Well could be, but SHIT!!!! Is it REALLY worth it, REALLY, to know that at least 4,000 American troops and who-knows-how-many innocent Iraqis paid for that experiment with their lives? How many multiples of just those numbers paid with their limbs, their eyes, their hearing, their skulls, etc? How many lives of those who survived will NEVER be whole again? Besides, even the results we got don't seem to have been bad enough. I'm not sure it's possible to get to that level of "bad enough."

And what about the land over there - sodden with depleted uranium? That's a gift that'll keep on giving for generations over there. To the Iraqi people AND to whoever of our people have the misfortune still to be over there - and others as well!

What about the budget deficit that mushroomed because of that war that bush/cheney HAD to have and LIED us into and "paid for" on OUR credit card that we're gonna be paying off for generations? Put us all so deep in the hole it may not be possible to get back out - in our lifetimes!

And what about the precious irreplaceable antiquities? bush/cheney thoughtfully remembered to have the Oil Ministry in Baghdad guarded, but NOTHING ELSE WAS. The ministry of antiquities, the MUSEUM of Antiquities! SHIT! LOOTED!!! All those treasures of thousands of years ago - that belong to all of humanity - GONE. DESTROYED! STOLEN!!!

And what about the ammo dumps and weapons storage strongholds? THOSE were left unguarded too, and all of THAT got looted, too!!!! So all our guns and ammo and other such menacing hardware of death all was allowed to fall into the hands of every rag-tag terrorist and al Qaeda operative and Shiite nutcase who ever wanted to get a hate-on for the West.

THANK YOU, ralph nader. And FUCK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! NONE of that would have happened if YOU hadn't been in there trying to fuck things up during Campaign 2000. Happy NOW??? HAPPY NOW, YOU ACCURSED ARROGANT FUCKWAD???

How'd that work out for ya, ralph?

Nader.. sendero May 2014 #1
Bill Sher's alternative (in the rest of the article) is for us to work with Corporations.... KoKo May 2014 #25
So do you think Nader is correct?? nt msanthrope May 2014 #32
You forget about Conservatives and about half of Democrats NobodyHere May 2014 #58
The fact that Libertarians, sendero May 2014 #63
I don't remember republicans and voting against deregulation of banks either NobodyHere May 2014 #72
White privilege has poisoned his brain randys1 May 2014 #77
I love Nader otherone May 2014 #2
You love Ralph Nader? Cali_Democrat May 2014 #42
Look down. You just stepped in shit. L0oniX May 2014 #62
Fuck Nader. Itchinjim May 2014 #3
Amen! calimary May 2014 #69
Fuck Nader Champion Jack May 2014 #4
Amen kysrsoze May 2014 #51
"... opposing "sovereignty-shredding global trade agreements, Wall Street bailouts, the overweening pampango May 2014 #5
Well, who could have seen that coming? Bobbie Jo May 2014 #6
Fuck that assclown. nt onehandle May 2014 #7
Ralph Nader can go suck eggs. hobbit709 May 2014 #8
This Proposal Makes No Sense ProfessorGAC May 2014 #9
Most liberals remember KaryninMiami May 2014 #10
Hasn't he done enough... Just ask Iraq!! Theyletmeeatcake2 May 2014 #20
Fuck Nader... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #11
Rot in hell Nadir. nt WhiteTara May 2014 #12
Nader loves the Bushes, he does so much to try to get them elected. MohRokTah May 2014 #13
You always take a vote where you can to meet your goal, but this is a precarious plan Jefferson23 May 2014 #14
Go back under your rock. TheCowsCameHome May 2014 #15
ralph has gone off the rails. nt Javaman May 2014 #16
More inspiration from the man with the blood of Iraq and Afghanistan Gman May 2014 #17
the asshole who put bush in the oval office now wants paul? what a fucking moron bowens43 May 2014 #18
Nader and Rand? LWolf May 2014 #19
+1. Well said. n/t Laelth May 2014 #30
Nader wouldn't be a "false boogie man" had he not run for president 5 times, nopt taken GOP $$$ to dionysus May 2014 #39
He can run. That's democracy, LWolf May 2014 #45
The American way is to help your neighbor erect his barn aquart May 2014 #52
That's right. LWolf May 2014 #74
It's hard to pull oneself up by the bootstraps Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2014 #67
Yep. LWolf May 2014 #73
Ralph Nader gave us Lt Awol and two un-necessary wars...Fuck him...Twice. truebrit71 May 2014 #21
And what sort of judges would Prez Rand put on the courts, Ralphie? JHB May 2014 #22
I'm sorry - What planet are the Naderites living on? Planet Naderon? chrisa May 2014 #23
Here are some of Ralph Nader's concerns about corporations Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2014 #68
Please be quiet Mr. Nader. You have harmed America enough already.nt ladjf May 2014 #24
This borders on hilarious in its naivete. Arkana May 2014 #26
Rand Paul has voted FOR every pro-corporate, anti worker, anti-consumer NWO Republican bill. blm May 2014 #27
Fuck Nader we can do it May 2014 #28
fuck nader warrior1 May 2014 #29
Nader is a joke and no one should pay any attention to his stupidity Gothmog May 2014 #31
Thanks to Obamacare MurrayDelph May 2014 #33
fuck scalia frylock May 2014 #34
Wow. How can such a smart man be so stupid? n/t Beearewhyain May 2014 #35
he's very old, and judging from the looks of him, he's had a stroke or two...maybe he's got dementia dionysus May 2014 #40
silly Nader, we're only supposed to ADOPT GOP policy, not briefly ally with MisterP May 2014 #36
Well, if I had seen a merest thread of "compromise" from anybody on the right... Wounded Bear May 2014 #37
I file this with everything else Nader has said in the last 15 years.... Rowdyboy May 2014 #38
Nader has been a joke for a while Gothmog May 2014 #41
"Someday"? Most of his voters from 2000 have already seen through his bullshit. Jim Lane May 2014 #44
I wouldn't follow his directions if he were God! CaliforniaPeggy May 2014 #43
I'll one up you JustAnotherGen May 2014 #56
Kiss my liberal, progressive, "white priv'leged" @$$, Ralphie. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #46
Fuck Nader...nt SidDithers May 2014 #47
The libertarian right are economic whack-jobs. HughBeaumont May 2014 #48
Hell no!!!! Like all Republicans, Rand Paul is a snake oil salesman. Initech May 2014 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science May 2014 #50
Fuck Nader. Iggo May 2014 #53
Fuck that noise, Ralph Tom Ripley May 2014 #54
No - just no JustAnotherGen May 2014 #55
Reading this thread... CanSocDem May 2014 #57
and then he flushed a lifetime of work and his reputation down the shitter nt arely staircase May 2014 #65
what a sad little man nt arely staircase May 2014 #59
Nader is a doddering old fool. MineralMan May 2014 #60
Someone is confusing liberal with libertarian again? L0oniX May 2014 #61
'Scuse me while I go ralph Blue Owl May 2014 #64
Ralph Nader lost touch with reality 14 years ago Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2014 #66
Ewwww ismnotwasm May 2014 #70
Nader has not only encroached on but entered Skidmore May 2014 #71
wow! alan2102 May 2014 #75
That won't sell here FiveGoodMen May 2014 #81
The last time Nader was ever of any use of 1976. Dawson Leery May 2014 #76
Fuck Nadir. nt WhiteTara May 2014 #78
how can anyone to the left DonCoquixote May 2014 #79
most telling quote DonCoquixote May 2014 #80
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