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scarletwoman

(31,893 posts) Fri May 2, 2014, 11:39 PM May 2014

The problem with the Death Penalty - we're trying to pretend that we're not really murdering someone [View all]

It's ridiculous. If we want the state to kill someone, then we should make sure that the state just plain kills them.

Shoot 'em in the head, stab 'em in the heart, cut off their head, rip out their innards, throw 'em in a gas chamber, electrocute 'em, hang 'em, make 'em bite down on a cyanide capsule - just fucking DO it. This whole charade of laying someone down on a bed (with a fucking pillow, no less!) and poking into a vein, and trying to make it look decent is garbage.

If you want to kill someone, stop trying to make it look clean. There's no such thing as a clean death when it's being done deliberately.

If your sensibilities are too delicate to witness someone being killed by firing squad, or any other method of swift and sure death-dealing, then maybe you ought to re-think the whole deal about state-sanctioned murder.

Jeeze...

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The problem with the Death Penalty - we're trying to pretend that we're not really murdering someone [View all] scarletwoman May 2014 OP

Well, we're not murdering someone Prophet 451 May 2014 #1

Okay, I'll yield to the legalism. Still, if you set out out to kill someone deliberately, scarletwoman May 2014 #3

On that, we agree entirely n/t Prophet 451 May 2014 #8

That is why death certs say homicide nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #6

There are many forms of homocide dpbrown May 2014 #9

I have a real dilemma, when taking a firm stand on the DP. GOPee May 2014 #37

So Hitler didn't murder 6 million Jews? Major Nikon May 2014 #12

Depends on which legal standard you're using Prophet 451 May 2014 #16

Use any legal standard you wish that existed at the time Major Nikon May 2014 #21

Of course it's ridiculous, but... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #2

"True crime can make you sick, but what we do about it is often no better." scarletwoman May 2014 #4

If I might add nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #5

Yes, enough of trying to sanitize it! scarletwoman May 2014 #7

State sanctioned murder should disturb people. Rex May 2014 #10

The problem with prison - We're trying to pretend we arn't intentionally making people suffer Taitertots May 2014 #11

Best post in weeks. NYC_SKP May 2014 #13

Are forum/group hosts allowed to have 4 hidden posts in the past 90 days? Electric Monk May 2014 #19

juries are random as you know... NYC_SKP May 2014 #20

When the jury votes 5-2 or 6-1 I don't think you can really call it a fluke bad luck hide. Electric Monk May 2014 #22

From the "Announcements" page: billh58 May 2014 #23

I'm not sure if it was ever implemented Major Nikon May 2014 #24

Ah, thanks, that explains why their hosting abilities haven't been removed. They need 1 more hide.nt Electric Monk May 2014 #31

, blkmusclmachine May 2014 #14

The problem is we feel "justice" = "revenge". Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #15

You missed the point TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #26

Carlin went there and said we should televise executions.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #30

Yep, that's about the highest level of dignity state-sponsored killing will ever have. n/t TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #35

A Valium drip until they pass out, then stop breathing, then heart stops. Completely painless. AAO May 2014 #17

Humane enough by any reasonable standard. AScott May 2014 #29

No More Death Penalty! leftieNanner May 2014 #18

The voice of reason here TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #25

Executing someone is not a pretty process. avebury May 2014 #27

Now, what's the penalty... yallerdawg May 2014 #28

Hospital medical errors now the third leading cause of death in the U.S. GeorgeGist May 2014 #33

Should would stop using drugs for euthanasia of animals? GeorgeGist May 2014 #32

technically it's not murder. it's merely cold-blooded, premeditated homicide unblock May 2014 #34

Agreed johnlucas May 2014 #36