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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
49. I don't know where to begin
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:35 PM
May 2014

I couldn't agree more, and I would even deign to take it further. One moment it's how wonderful everything is going under President Obama. The next day, it's how awful things are because of the Rethugs. If politically astute and active people wonder why the average citizen isn't interested in politics or voting, the perpetually changing propaganda is a big part of it.

Unemployment dropping is awesome and all because of President Obama and the Democrats. Let's jump and cheer. Then the Republicans refusal to extend unemployment benefits past 99 weeks shows how little they care about people who have been hurting for a long time.

The greatest economic recovery in the history of history as demonstrated by record Dow Jones Industrial numbers is all because of President Obama and the Democrats.

The income inequality where rich fat cat Wall Street types get billions while the workers get pennies is all because of the Republicans.

I could go on, and on, and on. We get tons of fluff pieces about how the nation is moving left, and then we get told that we are going to nominate Hillary because she's more moderate and will win the election against any Rethug challenger. If the country is moving left, why aren't we nominating an actually lefty instead of a moderate.

As I said, I can go on and on and on. I honestly wonder about every article I read. I can't trust any of it to tell me the truth. As an example, this thread talks about polling that clearly shows the nation moving left. One of the questions is support for unions. Yet, every time the unions are put to a vote, the actual voters say no, see Volkswagen a couple months ago. We don't want to deal with the reality, that we have to work to convert people and convince people. Instead we pat each other on the back and talk about how we're winning when the actual votes come in, we lose. See Florida special election where Alex Sink lost. How many threads here are bemoaning the Democratic Party not funding Wendy Davis who is trailing by 15 points? Realistically that campaign is not lost, but it will be by this time tomorrow.

I believe in the liberal idealism and principles, and it distresses me greatly that people are wrapping things into those principles to make it look like something it isn't. The difference between the RW and the LW is simple. The RW is always talking to the people and staying on message and using the phrases that work. We bounce back and forth between how awesome we are and how successful to how awful things are because of the Rethugs. I would say at least ten percent of the posts on this board are some little picture or graphic with some pithy saying that is supposed to really wake people up so they see the truth. It is usually followed by a number or rec and a whole bunch of cheering and clapping smilies as people rush to post it to facebook where it will be viewed and approved of by more liberals. They don't need convincing, the liberals are already convinced.

I'm watching the election approaching and I feel we will be exceedingly lucky to hold the Senate by a vote or two. Instead of a national approach, we are spending most of our time as Democrats trying to find the most conservative candidates we can, because you know, the country is moving left. So the country is getting more Liberal, and we're going to respond by nominating a Moderate.

By this time next week, we'll see all sorts of articles about how Charlie Crist the former Republican Governor who was a loyal Republican until they failed to nominate him for the Senate is really going to kick the crap out of Scott the current Republican, who will probably be welcomed into the Democratic Party with open arms in a year or so.

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They'll blame liberals for not showing up. Lasher May 2014 #1
They never loved us anyway. L0oniX May 2014 #4
recommend... It is the plan..and they have no shame about it. KoKo May 2014 #8
^^^This! 1000+!^^^ 2banon May 2014 #33
You mean that Hillary could be Bill's 5th term? bvar22 May 2014 #28
A poll I saw last night Fuddnik May 2014 #6
In February I got a fundraising letter from one of my US Senators. Lasher May 2014 #15
Exactly! FiveGoodMen May 2014 #23
Make your own choices on supporting candidates homegirl May 2014 #26
^^^^^^^ Yes! n/t truedelphi May 2014 #54
Saw an article somewhere entitled "the myth of the american center"... rwsanders May 2014 #22
Hear, hear! Laelth May 2014 #43
But party leaders do not care. truedelphi May 2014 #55
They'll figure it out, when they get something to really cry about...! MADem May 2014 #52
who is lesser than 2 Evils ? Wendy Davis ? was Russ Feingold lesser than 2 evils ? JI7 May 2014 #58
"Don't buy the propoganda coming from the DLC" TBF May 2014 #2
What gibberish. Highway tolls are a revenue source. We already have extremely cheap gas. KittyWampus May 2014 #3
We already paid for those highways, and continue to pay for maintenance. Fuddnik May 2014 #7
Revenue source for whom, brain-stem? brentspeak May 2014 #74
You are supposed to be grateful for the Social Issues alone, you ingrate you Dragonfli May 2014 #5
You are not taking into account the destruction of our public school system corkhead May 2014 #17
..not JUST "Teaching to the Test", bvar22 May 2014 #31
Pretty much the gist of what they're saying Populist_Prole May 2014 #30
Finding your post hilarious. truedelphi May 2014 #59
Also don't give a damn about offshoring or privatization abelenkpe May 2014 #9
No nothing they have done indicates they care about those things. truedelphi May 2014 #56
Are you talking about the Democratic Leadership Council? They don't exist any more. hatrack May 2014 #10
The PPI is still their active policy arm, and the rebranding to "Third Way" after the Koch Dragonfli May 2014 #11
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled.... bvar22 May 2014 #34
+1 (* infinity) nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #65
huge k/r tell it like it is nationalize the fed May 2014 #12
+10000000000 The incessant propaganda machine woo me with science May 2014 #13
You have a static IP only if you pay for it. And, anyways, that's not what Secure ID is about. Recursion May 2014 #14
Because when I think "Accountability" I think "US government". JoeyT May 2014 #25
I threw in the imthevicar May 2014 #16
So much wrong in one post. jeff47 May 2014 #18
Either Netflix or Comcast has to cost more Recursion May 2014 #19
No, that isn't accurate either. jeff47 May 2014 #29
Excellent rebuttal, provides facts which disprove the disinformation in the OP... Spazito May 2014 #20
+1. Plus the DLC closed its doors in February 2011. FSogol May 2014 #24
Yep. They closed the doors, bvar22 May 2014 #35
+100000000 woo me with science May 2014 #45
They assume everyone here bobduca May 2014 #47
Wow, a 3.5 year old article. I guess that disproves my point that they closed shop 3 years ago FSogol May 2014 #50
Reading is your friend. bvar22 May 2014 #76
Taking my points out of context does no one any good Harmony Blue May 2014 #27
I love it when exact quotes are miraculously "out of context". jeff47 May 2014 #32
So you think the dems should just cave on the toll road issue? Vattel May 2014 #60
Again, you are welcome to propose how they can increase road spending jeff47 May 2014 #71
You need to do better than that. Vattel May 2014 #73
Seriously? jeff47 May 2014 #77
The House votes to spend billions on all sorts of things, Vattel May 2014 #78
BECAUSE THEY ALREADY DREW THAT LINE. jeff47 May 2014 #79
I am not convinced that we should cave--at least not yet. Vattel May 2014 #81
So how many sinkholes do we need first? jeff47 May 2014 #83
So let's just cave anytime the republicans oppose us because they will never be reasonable? Vattel May 2014 #84
Again, this has been going on for years. jeff47 May 2014 #85
And yet somehow the interstates have survived. Vattel May 2014 #86
The static IP address was the tip off... had to reread the whole thing myself. Common GOP meme is to uponit7771 May 2014 #38
reads like a GOP rant wannabe lunasun May 2014 #66
This place is so full of paranoid crazy lately. I don't understand what the hell is going on Number23 May 2014 #48
They are the same collective few that regularly giftedgirl77 May 2014 #53
Yeap, then they expect people to take them seriously on their next "sky is falling" meme uponit7771 May 2014 #67
You are absolutely right. And I have had a gut full of this transparent idiocy. Number23 May 2014 #68
+1 JoePhilly May 2014 #75
K & R GoneFishin May 2014 #21
K&R me b zola May 2014 #36
Classic DLC Triangulation Laelth May 2014 #37
Plus 1 rusty fender May 2014 #39
Excellent post. woo me with science May 2014 #42
Exactly. bvar22 May 2014 #46
And yet again, another reason why so many young people will not be truedelphi May 2014 #87
Thanks for the kind words and for the response. n/t Laelth May 2014 #90
I never bought their BS to start with. hobbit709 May 2014 #40
kick woo me with science May 2014 #41
K & R dreamnightwind May 2014 #44
I don't know where to begin Savannahmann May 2014 #49
Unemployment dropping is the same as the "no real inflation" truedelphi May 2014 #57
Unemployment isn't dropping. Savannahmann May 2014 #70
So our Democratic Party Leaders are lying? truedelphi May 2014 #82
You'd have to be brain dead to buy what they are selling these days quinnox May 2014 #51
I won't miss the Obama loyalists. I hope the Clinton loyalists are less pathetic. Vattel May 2014 #61
I don't think anyone will, mindless cheerleading isn't exactly endearing quinnox May 2014 #63
The Obama Loyalists BlindTiresias May 2014 #69
k/r 840high May 2014 #62
has anyone considered DonCoquixote May 2014 #64
Sssh! Some here do not want truedelphi May 2014 #91
Yep. 99Forever May 2014 #72
The DLC disbanded in 2011. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #80
ACORN! FSogol May 2014 #88
Very few people have static IP addresses brooklynite May 2014 #89
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