Everyone is under surveillance now, says whistleblower Edward Snowden

[MADem]

42. Speaking of "personal attacks" all you seem to be doing is telling me what you think I think and

believe...we might as well just let you just tell everyone what their views are, since you've already made up your mind!

You're not interested in facts--you are interested in making accusations. Sorry, I don't regard you as The Way or The Light. And why are you talking about Manning when the thread is about Snowden? You do that alot. But, since you insist on rehashing that drama:

==Chelsea Manning stole documents wholesale as a military enlisted member and gave them to Julian Assange, and got an appropriate punishment. Too bad if that troubles you--even Manning admitted culpability.

==Manning is being held in very comfortable digs; no torture, no abuse, because it's Leavenworth and they're quite specific as to how they run things there--it's a calm environment with no drama, the inmates are military so they understand unit discipline, visitors can come every day (unlike civilian prisons), there's tv, cards, exercise, and school. The color scheme may be dreary, but the environment is VERY safe. It's like bootcamp with WAY more perks and less exercise, only it lasts much, much longer and everyone has their own room.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Manning knew that stealing those documents and giving them to Assange was wrong, and said as much.

Why can Manning understand that, and you cannot?

A photo of a typical cell in the Leavenworth barracks shows a well-lit but austere space, with a bunk and a desk and a metal toilet-and-sink unit. On her blog, Finch's co-author described beginning his incarceration in a 6-by-9-foot cell with cinderblock walls and a green steel door.

"It is dreary," Gorecki-Robbins said.

Inmates have access to playing cards, board games and television. The prison has craft and music rooms, and recreational activities, including weightlifting and playing basketball, flag football and ping pong. Both Finch and Gorecki-Robbins said seating for television or movies shown by the prison is determined by an inmate's social status, with the inmate with the highest ranking sitting front and center and newcomers taking seats in the back.

Uniforms are brown, usually worn and "heavily starched," Finch said. Inmates can buy their own shoes, she said, and that's where their fashion individuality shows.

Inmates are paid just pennies an hour for their work, Finch said. People outside the prison can send them money orders, though they're limited to spending $80 a month, she said.

Visitors can come any day of the week, according to post officials, though hours on weekdays are limited to the evenings. There are no conjugal visits.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/fort-leavenworth-prison_n_3790965.html

This thread isn't about Manning, though---but you sure like to change the subject!