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yallerdawg

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52. Did Babylon 5 have a Marxist sub-text?

Sun May 4, 2014, 11:56 AM

May 2014

"...the whole history of mankind...has been a history of class struggles, contests between exploiting and exploited, ruling and oppressed classes..."

Actually, maybe not all that sub. Centauri and Narn? The evolution of Londo and G'Kar?

And maybe, as in the best of science fiction, we are drawn to the truths the story tells about us.

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THE RULES OF THE NEW ARISTOCRACY (by JMS, creator of Babylon 5) [View all] Babel_17 May 2014 OP

K&R pa28 May 2014 #1

Wow, what a great piece he wrote! DJ13 May 2014 #2

I like you too heaven05 May 2014 #3

+1 - WE ARE GOD erronis May 2014 #14

Well Done. bvar22 May 2014 #56

This is real yallerdawg May 2014 #4

I have been going to protests since W was appointed president by the Dancing Supremes. fasttense May 2014 #32

I think JMS is aware of Thomas Piketty Babel_17 May 2014 #5

No Democrats and Republicans yallerdawg May 2014 #6

Try reading Elizabeth Warren's new book, "A Fighting Chance." JDPriestly May 2014 #8

If enough people choose her then the political landscape will change Babel_17 May 2014 #9

Babylon 5 was one of my favorite, but I was only able to watch half way through the series Dragonfli May 2014 #12

Free Babylon 5! Babel_17 May 2014 #16

I just read your journal Babel_17 May 2014 #51

The obvious tends to be observed Dragonfli May 2014 #54

I think he had a lot of these things figured out long before Piketty's book came along. n/t winter is coming May 2014 #7

Oh, I agree Babel_17 May 2014 #10

And he's probably seeing us heading for the worst of the Babylon 5 future starroute May 2014 #11

Credit goes to WRP from three years ago supernova May 2014 #13

Strange how the only people talking about these issues..... DeSwiss May 2014 #15

True, though a few exceptions to that Babel_17 May 2014 #17

Bernie's no politician. DeSwiss May 2014 #21

+1! It's corruption from sea to shining sea. And some are fine with that. Enthusiast May 2014 #37

When awakening begins..... DeSwiss May 2014 #59

chilling otherone May 2014 #18

Welcome to 1984. All courtesy of GWB, Obama, and "9/11." blkmusclmachine May 2014 #19

If you read the entire piece, and the comments below it, you'll see people from other countries NBachers May 2014 #20

Well they should Babel_17 May 2014 #31

Printed the rest and it gets even better. Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #22

I think... sendero May 2014 #27

What an erudite view. I don't think so. Skidmore May 2014 #34

Did JMS actually write this? nxylas May 2014 #23

He printed it also in Boing Boing Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #24

OK, just checking nxylas May 2014 #25

Yes, it's by JMS himself JanMSchroeder May 2014 #41

Welcome to DU Jan! Babel_17 May 2014 #45

"Sixteen tons and what do I get? Another day older and deeper in debt" ladjf May 2014 #26

To this day, chervilant May 2014 #28

Some more, quite spot on, commentary Babel_17 May 2014 #29

"The earth and the fullness thereof are mine, saith Monseigneur" genwah May 2014 #30

That was a worthwhile google Babel_17 May 2014 #35

Excellent! ctsnowman May 2014 #33

Like B5, the "new aristocracy" works... gulliver May 2014 #36

Things have changed, yes, but the patterns remain Babel_17 May 2014 #40

The GREAT MAKER Speaks!! I have to check this out. navarth May 2014 #38

It seems JMS is trying to get his message out Babel_17 May 2014 #43

I don't know what a boost is and I can no longer stand Facebook but navarth May 2014 #58

Y'all do realize that Marx and Engels said this .... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #39

The attitudes of the perpetrators of the system matter, imo Babel_17 May 2014 #42

I will disagree that the attitudes of the perpetrators makes that much difference..... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #44

Good point, I'm not offended Babel_17 May 2014 #49

Did Babylon 5 have a Marxist sub-text? yallerdawg May 2014 #52

I know I'm not that informed on Marxism and I'm not an expert about B5 Babel_17 May 2014 #53

I'm just a fan, too yallerdawg May 2014 #61

No Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #46

Then we have to get out in front of our party Babel_17 May 2014 #47

We're on B5 now, aren't we? rickyhall May 2014 #48

Yes, if you mean a B5 forum Babel_17 May 2014 #50

It's not a new idea, it's something that never went away. proReality May 2014 #55

The idea isn't new, bvar22 May 2014 #57

THIS thread needs music... yuiyoshida May 2014 #60

Perfect Babel_17 May 2014 #62

Kudos to Jan for the link Babel_17 May 2014 #63