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Donald Ian Rankin

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11. Agreeing to stop having people murdered is not the same as saving lives!
Sun May 4, 2014, 02:48 PM
May 2014

As to moral equivalence: During the troubles,
Republican terrorists killed about 600 people, not one of them justifiably.
Unionist terrorists killed about 300 people (some with the complicity of UK forces), not one of them justifiably.
The UK forces killed about 100 people, most but by no means all of them criminals killed while resisting arrest.

There certainly were both unjustifiable killings of civilians, and outright murders, by members of the UK forces, as well as collusion with Unionist murder groups, and I think it's regrettable that so few people have ended up in jail for these, just as I think it's regrettable that so many Republican and Unionist murders were let out early or not pursued. But the number is often exaggerated - it's well into double figures, but well short of a tenth of the number of victims of the IRA (which is still far, far too many - when the proudest boast you can make for a police force is "murdered less than a tenth of the number of people a dedicated murder organisation did" then something has gone terribly, terribly wrong...)

But, sadly, that was necessary for peace - the politicians involved took the view that letting two murderers from different sides off cancelled out, rather than adding out.

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Gerry Adams should be in jail; mr blur May 2014 #1
Now get the proof intaglio May 2014 #4
Agreeing to stop having people murdered is not the same as saving lives! Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #11
Negotiating in good faith to end the Troubles did save lives intaglio May 2014 #20
Which is why Trimble and Hume were awarded a Nobel peace prize. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #23
Adams and McGuinness had to work round the gangsters and hardliners intaglio May 2014 #26
Do you think that "revenge" is a good choice of words for a common-or-garden legal system? Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #27
Compare to the South African case, which I also mentioned intaglio May 2014 #29
Which point requires an answer? Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #30
The one highlighted which you have studiously avoided intaglio May 2014 #31
You mean the one I just answered, in the post you replied to accusing me of avoiding? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #32
And you don't think the terrorist proddy PSNI would have done that if they could? RB TexLa May 2014 #5
What, you mean the one Adams and McGuinness have endorsed? Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #7
PSNI didn't need to be terrorists when they had the UDA Recursion May 2014 #36
Great. Thanks! ucrdem May 2014 #2
Stay well President Gerry Adams CountAllVotes May 2014 #3
Or, better, die slowly and painfully. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #8
What the PSNI was up to was trying to find one of the IRA's victims' bodies. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #6
Bloody-handed murderers aren't generally released without charges. ucrdem May 2014 #9
...Are you serious? Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #10
If that was "part of the process" they wouldn't still be trying to frame him. ucrdem May 2014 #12
Correct, ergo they are not trying to frame him. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #13
They tried and they failed. ucrdem May 2014 #14
Do you have a single scrap of evidence? Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #15
Ahem, we're discussing it. He was arrested. Then released without charges. ucrdem May 2014 #16
We should have let Germany take your island. Cause you people would have never RB TexLa May 2014 #17
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #18
I'm saying in the 1940's we should have done nothing for you people. RB TexLa May 2014 #19
You are, of course, at least 85 years old and a war veteran? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #21
No, just saying it was what your island deserved. RB TexLa May 2014 #22
"You people." Iggo May 2014 #24
It does make me wonder if (s)he knows I'm Jewish... Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #25
I don't care. And I have the same views of britian and it's history as many people in the world do RB TexLa May 2014 #28
Would you have been perfectly happy with Hitler taking over Europe? LeftishBrit May 2014 #33
We could have saved the rest of Europe RB TexLa May 2014 #34
Recommended. H2O Man May 2014 #35
This was nothing more than a shameful political maneuver riderinthestorm May 2014 #37
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