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92. "essentially a homeless camp"

Sun May 4, 2014, 02:50 PM

May 2014

Some of these guys who showed up didn't think to bring a change of underwear.

Which is funny considering they would need it if the shooting actually started.

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This thing with Cliven Bundy is not going to end well. [View all] RandySF May 2014 OP

He needs to crawl back in the rat hole he escaped. He still owes the grazing fees. Thinkingabout May 2014 #1

I have thought that all along.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #2

Some people have to be slapped to the ground before they get a grasp of what assholes they are. In RKP5637 May 2014 #3

Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Elian Gonzalez has made our government wimpy Cleita May 2014 #5

Waco and Ruby Ridge escalated to Oklahoma City. RandySF May 2014 #7

I know that part of the country and its rather remote from necessities especially gas Cleita May 2014 #9

Sound like a great place to live! Auntie Bush May 2014 #82

If you like that sort of thing, Nevada has many, many remote places. I know. Cleita May 2014 #87

So what's to stop them from simply taking the supplies they want? JoeyT May 2014 #23

They are not stopping cars. former9thward May 2014 #29

What property? The property for which Bundy is in arrears for grazing fees? KittyWampus May 2014 #38

No, the property he owns and lives on. former9thward May 2014 #47

What about that video of one of the mooch militia blocking a TV news crew and responding, tblue37 May 2014 #52

That was during the standoff pinboy3niner May 2014 #61

Well that would be robbery and it's not unusual for white supremacists to Cleita May 2014 #85

You make a very good point, as usual! Confrontation might well galvanize them and casual RKP5637 May 2014 #42

Good point! nt Auntie Bush May 2014 #83

Try smarter about confrontation Mopar151 May 2014 #45

But that's not the new DU way ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #53

+1 Good point! FSogol May 2014 #64

But at what point does a government... Bigmack May 2014 #66

Better to seem weak than to make them martyrs. delta17 May 2014 #128

that's true but 2pooped2pop May 2014 #79

What is a realistic approach, though? delta17 May 2014 #130

We're calling for the feds to prevent them from terrorizing the neighborhood. JoeyT May 2014 #81

I don't think we would wipe out a neighborhood of Muslims here Cleita May 2014 #88

You really don't believe that's the same thing do you? cui bono May 2014 #131

If they were Black or Latino or Gay or liberal randys1 May 2014 #56

My observation over the years in the US is often the assholes and wackos get a free pass, but RKP5637 May 2014 #59

Yeah, because military weapons technology hasn't progressed since the 1780's. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #97

Roflmao. Now that's funny. SummerSnow May 2014 #129

he is a freeloading, racist piece of absolute trash Skittles May 2014 #4

Those militia fools are just itching to for something start. Kablooie May 2014 #6

Both sides think they're right. Shandris May 2014 #8

Lol. n/t ronnie624 May 2014 #11

So what are you proposing? Avalux May 2014 #14

He's definitely been using the land. It -seems- he hasn't paid his taxes... Shandris May 2014 #103

"To the best of your knowledge" is, sadly, not very good. truebluegreen May 2014 #108

I'm 'going to have to try harder' to...what, exactly? Shandris May 2014 #110

Yo, dude, it should be obvious: truebluegreen May 2014 #111

I'm not a dude, a guy, a man, or a buddy... Shandris May 2014 #112

Practice what you preach truebluegreen May 2014 #118

Fair enough, and for that I do apologize. Shandris May 2014 #119

Apology accepted. truebluegreen May 2014 #122

What gets me GP6971 May 2014 #124

Total agreement on this point for sure. Shandris May 2014 #125

His logic is internally inconsistent and contradictory pinboy3niner May 2014 #127

See, the whole 'frozen accounts' thing or auctions and whatnot? Seems perfectly fine. Shandris May 2014 #126

To be fair, the BLM was attempting to seize assets-- truebluegreen May 2014 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author cui bono May 2014 #133

There are court orders for Bundy to pay for use of the federal lands, No Vested Interest May 2014 #18

Seriously? Control-Z May 2014 #21

The baying of hounds Fairgo May 2014 #28

Exactly what the Authorities said to Occupy. former9thward May 2014 #30

so, you're in the club where people with guns can flaunt Federal Law blatantly over many years? KittyWampus May 2014 #39

No. former9thward May 2014 #49

Occupy for the most part placed itself in areas that are, under our First Amendment, JDPriestly May 2014 #94

The poster I was replying to said "Its rule of law or mob rule." former9thward May 2014 #95

Thanks for the insight Fairgo May 2014 #100

It has nothing to do with finances except that the federal government has a right to claim JDPriestly May 2014 #116

How about something other. Cleita May 2014 #104

But Bundy is still allowing his cattle to feed on federal land without a permit. JDPriestly May 2014 #115

Gov. Brian Schweitzer said the Treasury dept. will take care of him Cleita May 2014 #121

I agree. Thanks. JDPriestly May 2014 #141

Yeah, fuck that. JoeyT May 2014 #24

I remember seeing several posts about these checkpoints, but last time I knew of... Shandris May 2014 #101

Even without those, JoeyT May 2014 #105

This is the first I've heard of those. Shandris May 2014 #106

conflicting narrative? you mean like how the fundies claim the earth's Doctor_J May 2014 #40

Not two sides to this or any issue of truth randys1 May 2014 #57

While I agree that a majority of RW talk is bullshit, only an idealogue thinks they know... Shandris May 2014 #102

Not me, but I cant think of a single issue where the right and left disagree randys1 May 2014 #113

The evolutionists are right. And those that believe the planet is about 4.3 billion years old..... Fred Sanders May 2014 #114

LOL. Well duh! But I wouldn't call that a political belief; there are RW'ers who believe in... Shandris May 2014 #117

oh, it's cut up in nice bite-sized pieces and dried out like a piece of jerky. frylock May 2014 #98

There's conflicting narratives of everything when there's Faux News and Limbaugh around. cui bono May 2014 #134

There are two things neo-nazi white supremist/militia types like... 951-Riverside May 2014 #10

They can't spot a high flying drone, and they sure as hell won't spot one at night. MADem May 2014 #13

No one is stopping them from getting supplies. former9thward May 2014 #33

If someone wants to do meth and young girls there are a million other better places to do it. former9thward May 2014 #31

Amazing, isn't it? So easy to broad brush intent and character. snappyturtle May 2014 #36

if these racist scum perceive what they're doing as "right" that is absolutely their problem KittyWampus May 2014 #41

If they think they are right in defending Bundy, they are indeed confused. Squinch May 2014 #44

No, this is the perfect place for the deranged nazi pedo-meth militia types. They love remote areas 951-Riverside May 2014 #137

No it is not "remote" former9thward May 2014 #147

It is very remote if you actually look at the map and they "kicked" the media out long ago 951-Riverside May 2014 #152

Do any of these "patriots" have a fucking job to go to? Marr May 2014 #12

How many have no where else to go? Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #17

They are the real "moochers" the GOP talks about. Stop all Fed benefit checks. See how that goes. kelliekat44 May 2014 #26

Aren't those the exact same questions posed to the Occupy people? former9thward May 2014 #32

+1 nt snappyturtle May 2014 #37

did Occupy have guns aimed at other people? Was Occupy out in the middle of desert? KittyWampus May 2014 #43

Way to divert. former9thward May 2014 #51

LOL. The poster who brought Occupy into the conversation tabasco May 2014 #54

I brought Occupy into the conversation because the same media points were made then. former9thward May 2014 #68

Occupy was comprised of college trust fund babies and a few retired hippies snooper2 May 2014 #153

If that is true it does not speak well for either group. former9thward May 2014 #154

You can have an opinion but you cannot change facts. When you try and someone calls you on it you jwirr May 2014 #65

I helped organize protests in the 60s. former9thward May 2014 #69

I was there in the 60s also and yes we were peacefully protesting like Occupy did. That is not what jwirr May 2014 #71

Oh please... former9thward May 2014 #73

Those incidents were mainly at the end of the moverment. As to the early violence especially jwirr May 2014 #75

Who is angry? Not me. former9thward May 2014 #77

Diversion to actual facts. Whisp May 2014 #74

You seem to be the one bringing the straw-men into the living room LanternWaste May 2014 #145

Given that you are a supporter of those poster's opinions ... former9thward May 2014 #146

Yeah, but all those assault rifles, pistols, ammo and camouflage cost shitloads of money. Paladin May 2014 #46

I suppose. former9thward May 2014 #50

Whatever makes you happy. Paladin May 2014 #55

Nice hit with the strawman. former9thward May 2014 #67

To the contrary: I honestly want you to engage in as much discussion as you want. (nt) Paladin May 2014 #76

Given we are on a discussion board we have that in common. former9thward May 2014 #78

Suits me. (nt) Paladin May 2014 #80

I don't think many people are defending them. delta17 May 2014 #136

I think you've identified the problem. Paladin May 2014 #148

Yes, but OWS didn't call people on welfare losers while being on welfare themselves. chrisa May 2014 #149

The Occupy folks didn't spend their lives banging on about "freeloaders" and "takers". Arkana May 2014 #151

I suspect it will end in 1 of two ways Gore1FL May 2014 #15

It was in the 90s today in Vegas. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #19

My house was 103, downtown Las Vegas Nevernose May 2014 #90

"essentially a homeless camp" Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #92

I'm most worried about number 1 happening jmowreader May 2014 #20

Do you really think they'd use any sort of artillery on those people? penultimate May 2014 #25

Only as the next-to-last resort pinboy3niner May 2014 #35

Only if absolutely necessary jmowreader May 2014 #96

I read about that. Call me an asshole, but I think that would've been hilarious. Marr May 2014 #60

I believe you are right and summer is coming along with Cleita May 2014 #89

Need to leak aerial shots of them standing around out there to totally freak them out.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #16

Ha, good idea! (N/t) Lefta Dissenter May 2014 #27

that is actually a good idea. Psychological warfare. Maybe they'd start shooting themselves KittyWampus May 2014 #48

I hope the Google street view camera happens by. gulliver May 2014 #58

And the half-erased word "informant" with a vaguely directed arrow ... nt eppur_se_muova May 2014 #62

ha! and thousands of pshopped military surrounding them Whisp May 2014 #72

Remote control planes flying over the check points would probably re-enforce the rumors. Gore1FL May 2014 #91

As it is they're thinking "the Feds" are just over the hill.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #93

''American flags flap in the wind.....'' DeSwiss May 2014 #22

Still find it hilarious he lives in Bunkerville. JaneyVee May 2014 #34

On several levels tularetom May 2014 #63

They're providing an interesting preview of the world they envision. DirkGently May 2014 #70

Yep. Brigid May 2014 #123

Officials should publicly savalez May 2014 #84

I love this idea. nt Bigmack May 2014 #86

Simplicity itself. Me likey. Brigid May 2014 #99

Cut the network feeds, leave the area, keep Bundy off of FOX and this incident Thinkingabout May 2014 #107

Summer is Coming. truebluegreen May 2014 #109

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #120

What kind of weird sign is this? SummerSnow May 2014 #132

Give me two head of cattle, four melons and three kids--and make sure the kids are fresh this time pinboy3niner May 2014 #135

roflmao... SummerSnow May 2014 #138

Wants to go out in a graze of glory. kairos12 May 2014 #139

I cud have predicted you'd say that. nt pinboy3niner May 2014 #143

Got me. I thought my response would go udder the radar. kairos12 May 2014 #144

WRONG! Las Vegas Sun! ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #142

As soon as those thugs with guns leave, Bundy's going to jail. Arkana May 2014 #150

Obama and DOJ have handled this really well - TBF May 2014 #155

send a budweiser truck rafeh1 May 2014 #156