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In reply to the discussion: Everyone is under surveillance now, says whistleblower Edward Snowden [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)She admitted she didn't even read the shit she gave Assange. Her actions were driven by her personal misery, and she acknowledged that she was misguided in the extreme.
I don't mean to be rude, but I'm not going to play a game of "Which is worst" with you. Snowden had options--he could have gone to anyone on the Senate Intel Committee, or any of the associated subcommittees, with a really good lawyer and obtained immunity for testimony. If he could have, as he's claiming now, demonstrated that he could watch Dianne Feinstein order spanx and a long line brassiere from Amazon, you can be sure that she'd make sure he got that immunity faster than you can say JOHN DEAN. Why didn't he do this? Because he couldn't prove what he's saying, is my guess.
This whole "I had no other choice, waaaah, waaah" line of bullshit is just not supported. Immunity is OFTEN granted for testimony that's salient. This game of "I can't tell or I'll be breaking the law, waaah!" is not on. You get your lawyer to play a "Just supposing" game -- "Just supposing my client could tell you that NSA is doing this, that and the other..." and you take it from there.
Like I said, I initially thought Snowden was a wide-eyed stupinagle who was clueless about his options. The more I listen to his bullshit, which gets piled higher and deeper everytime he opens his mouth, the more I think he is a turned operative, and he's been turned since the first time he went on vacation to Hong Kong, at least--and perhaps even much, much earlier.
For all we know, perhaps after his initial Ars Technica whinging and griping about the high cost of living in Europe, the reason that he started to enjoy "horribly expensive" Switzerland wasn't because he "settled in," but instead he started enjoying a nicer lifestyle thanks to the expense account of a friendly Russian agent who persuaded him to grant him small accommodations for easy paydays...and you know how those guys are, once they've got ya, they keep ya. Integrity, like virginity, is lost but ONCE.
I was born at night, but not last night. I just can't buy this guy's bullshit anymore, particularly when NONE of it--not one little bit-- involves Saint Vladimir of Putin. It's just not credible that none of the goodies he got his paws on have anything to do with Russia, Putin, or any of their senior leaders, when he can cough up the most OBSCURE document about third tier nations and their interactions with USA. Too clever by half, Eddie is.
Thing is, he can be too clever in Moscow because he's definitely chosen sides--that last Putin Praising Lalapalooza was just a bridge too far; I hope he's giving the Rosetta Stone a good workout; that's a tough language to speak conversationally, never mind master. Bright spot--he's got all the time in the world, because he ain't going anywhere. I doubt anyone in the intelligence community believes him, and I'll bet the only reason they don't come right out an call him an operative is because he's not the only one. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the US intelligence community has a problem on their hands that makes the Walker ring look like a walk in the park.