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27. How is it possible? How would he know? What safety measures were circumvented?

Sun May 4, 2014, 07:50 PM

May 2014

After the LoveInt matter, NSA employees were disciplined and/or fired. Is Snowden saying that no additional safeguards were put into place after that? How would he know?
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Did Snowden offer proof that he could see every purchase crossing his computer screen? [View all] Cali_Democrat May 2014 OP

We don't know the extent of the raw data gathered. But the interface XKEYSCORE we have some info Paulie May 2014 #1

But that can be seen only with a warrant if you're an American. Something that was made very clear okaawhatever May 2014 #20

Except it happened ALOT Paulie May 2014 #29

There is no such thing as a 'group warrant'. For a warrant to be legitimate, it has to show sabrina 1 May 2014 #53

There are two different warrants. One is to collect the info from the phone co. and store the info. okaawhatever May 2014 #56

I'm seeing the 4th amendment. I see that it pluralizes 'persons' please show proof of your stevenleser May 2014 #83

Huh. Don't think anyone saw that before now. randome May 2014 #84

What's more, Smith v. Maryland specifies that info provided to 3rd parties is fair game stevenleser May 2014 #85

You just posted it, proof that there is no such thing as a SECRET Court issuing a warrant on the sabrina 1 May 2014 #90

No. What you wrote is not a legal argument. nt stevenleser May 2014 #93

You just posted, and I take it you WERE serious, that the American people have no individual sabrina 1 May 2014 #94

It is all in the parsing or interpretation of his sentence. djean111 May 2014 #2

yes, that. grasswire May 2014 #3

If he said it the way you said it, then it wouldnt have gotten much attention. DCBob May 2014 #12

It never occurred to me for a minute that he meant he could see everyone's purchases djean111 May 2014 #13

Well then its no big deal.. most of us knew that already, even us "low info types". DCBob May 2014 #15

If most of us already knew that already, why demand proof? Pick a stance - either refuse to believe djean111 May 2014 #18

Huh?? I dont need proof of that.. its been going on for a long time. DCBob May 2014 #19

Those who assumed he could see all of our purchases flashing by on a real time basis merely did not djean111 May 2014 #21

I don't have 'proof', but I can say 'how'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #4

Can you point me to proof he and other NSA agents couldn't see what purchases Autumn May 2014 #5

Snowden was not an NSA 'agent'. He was a computer geek. randome May 2014 #8

Weird how the revelation that he stole someone's password giftedgirl77 May 2014 #32

Exactly. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #43

Yes. Thank you. aquart May 2014 #59

Perfectly said. Number23 May 2014 #67

Wow, to think Snowden has access to all of this information makes me think he is one Thinkingabout May 2014 #6

Right now, he has access to nothing. MineralMan May 2014 #7

Do you think he is overplaying his hand again? Thinkingabout May 2014 #11

I don't know, and don't care much. MineralMan May 2014 #17

He didn't even offer the vaguest of explanations. randome May 2014 #9

Having worked in data processing all my life, I don't need those explanations. djean111 May 2014 #14

Except that they need a warrant to see it if you're an American citizen. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #22

If NSA employees were spying on their girlfriends or whatever - then I think the warrant thing is djean111 May 2014 #24

How is it possible? How would he know? What safety measures were circumvented? randome May 2014 #27

And LOVINT showed the system denied requests on citizens. joshcryer May 2014 #63

If Snowden's true interest were in wanting people to know the truth he'd say they need a warrant to okaawhatever May 2014 #33

yeah, in essense he's saying he could run a report on someone. dionysus May 2014 #25

You have no idea if he warehoused a thing. None of us knows his responsibilities. He won't even say. randome May 2014 #30

He is not saying that he personally does all the data gathering and warehousing. djean111 May 2014 #36

Yeah, but the NSA not responding to every single one of Snowden's pressers means little. randome May 2014 #41

He could say the data is unencrypted. joshcryer May 2014 #64

The people who hate him are not concerned about (or cognizant of) the technical stuff. djean111 May 2014 #92

And you know this how? Skidmore May 2014 #95

I think technical details bolster the evidence. joshcryer May 2014 #96

Do you work in an office with PCs? Haven't you ever phoned IT CJCRANE May 2014 #71

I've been one of those IT people. Do you understand how they do that? stevenleser May 2014 #80

So NSA agents simply watch while Snowden runs queries on their computers. randome May 2014 #82

Does Snowden have "proof" of any of his accusations? Cha May 2014 #10

+100 nt okaawhatever May 2014 #23

That about sums it up Cali_Democrat May 2014 #39

If that's what you believe, why argue and worry about it? ohheckyeah May 2014 #49

Yeah, snowden's a libertarian ratfucker. Cha May 2014 #50

Do you have proof of his ohheckyeah May 2014 #51

right.. it's not about snowden except he makes it about himself and his ratfucking. Cha May 2014 #52

I can't say I've ohheckyeah May 2014 #54

It's been a common political expression since Watergate jberryhill May 2014 #76

I know what it means... ohheckyeah May 2014 #86

100% agreement. aquart May 2014 #60

.. Cha May 2014 #62

ECHO CHAMBER IS TEH FUN bobduca May 2014 #16

You should know. Cha May 2014 #26

oh noes!11! #whogivesashit dionysus May 2014 #28

with card purchases he exaggerating but mostly correct KentuckyWoman May 2014 #31

His sentence should read "If I had a warrant, I could see it at my desk, crossing my screen." nt okaawhatever May 2014 #34

Exactly! Funny how he never seems to know how this works! randome May 2014 #42

I've yet to read an official denial of that charge. pa28 May 2014 #35

Snowden is lying lots also so if Clapper's amswer did fit the taste of many Thinkingabout May 2014 #37

I've yet to read denials of most conspiracy theories concerning the NSA and CIA. stevenleser May 2014 #81

Frankly, I'm having a hard time believing him. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #38

He doesn't say every purchase crossed his screen. Skip Intro May 2014 #40

+10000 - not even making sense, really. djean111 May 2014 #44

No amount of distortion is too much if it makes Snowden look bad. Vattel May 2014 #47

It doesn't make Snowden look bad - it makes the contortionists look silly. At best. djean111 May 2014 #91

Snowden wasn't claiming that NanceGreggs May 2014 #45

Hi Nance! Cali_Democrat May 2014 #48

Thank you for the kind words, Cali_Dem. NanceGreggs May 2014 #66

Yes, I was just told "it's not about snowden".. but, unfortnately snowden makes it about himself and Cha May 2014 #55

For the time being. Wait till Putin is tired of him. aquart May 2014 #61

Proof? They don't need no stinkin' proof! Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #46

Given that the Obama Administrations been caught lying multiple times, MannyGoldstein May 2014 #57

That's "damning with faint praise" to an extraordinary degree! randome May 2014 #68

Maybe he's talking about how Obama lied and then didn't cut Social Security. JoePhilly May 2014 #72

In the event of a tie, the win goes to the guy we elected, not to a thief on the run. randome May 2014 #73

not quite the end of discussion. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #87

Then list the lies. randome May 2014 #88

I didn't help to elect Dick Cheney or James Clapper, but you go ahead and make common cause. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #89

Did no one on this thread watch Morgan Spurlock on CNN t his evening? grasswire May 2014 #58

Given the proof he has produced of what the NSA can do Vattel May 2014 #65

Why does this Bozo get so much attention? B Calm May 2014 #69

Edit your thread. It has misinformation in it. Jemon May 2014 #70

Your first post on DU and you are criticizing the OP for making fun of Snowden, B Calm May 2014 #74

Well it was done pretty respectfully compared to some of the stuff we see so I hold out hope. Agschmid May 2014 #75

The OP doesn't make fun of Snowden Jemon May 2014 #77

That sort of thing gets done all the time here by a certain group of posters. Zorra May 2014 #78

Thanks Jemon May 2014 #79