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Savannahmann

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72. I'd go with the Toyota

Sun May 4, 2014, 10:06 PM

May 2014

All the hysteronics aside, let's be honest. Toyota was not a Union shop in California either. The cars have been made all over the nation for years, with my own mini-van the Sienna built in Indiana, with 70% American made parts, unlike far too many "American" cars. The Tacoma is 70% American made as well. Additionally, I got free lifetime service from the Dealer, which considering it uses synthetic oil is a very big savings.

Also those same BBC folks took a truck to the North Pole, the first time anyone had driven there, and they did it in a Toyota pick up truck.

This is the second Toyota I've owned. The first was totaled in an accident, one in which I walked away uninjured.

But let's talk about Unions for a moment. A question I've asked before. Import cars come in via ports. The ships are guided to the dock by a Port Pilot, who is an American. The tugboats are American, and part of a union. The dockworkers are International Longshoremen, a Union. The Clerks who check the cars in and out of the Port are Union. The cars loaded onto the trains which are diven by Union operators. Many of the truckers are Teamsters, which is another Union. Why is it the only Union I'm supposed to give a shit about is the UAW? Why don't any of those other unions matter one damn bit?

I bought a Toyota, built in Indiana. The Tacoma you're considering was built in Texas, long before the move was announced.

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