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Duckhunter935

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11. Same with those who support Russian intererence

Reply to malaise (Reply #10)

Mon May 5, 2014, 08:08 AM

May 2014

It is ugly and both sides are fighting by proxy

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No Russians among Slavyansk self-defense forces - NYT reporters [View all] PoliticalPothead May 2014 OP

This should be fun AnalystInParadise May 2014 #1

Bbbut..... So is the media starting to wake up, or are they realizing they can't newthinking May 2014 #2

Either way, it's nice to finally see some real journalism coming from the NYT PoliticalPothead May 2014 #3

Got it. Real journalism = shit you agree with. Propoganda = shit you disagree with. 11 Bravo May 2014 #40

Real journalism = going to the place where things are happening and talking to the people involved. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #42

+1000 joeybee12 May 2014 #45

No, they got caught so many times publishing lies and they are being trashed sabrina 1 May 2014 #24

Well stated, Sabrina 1... KoKo May 2014 #49

So, they have the same weapons as the army Recursion May 2014 #4

Just like Maidan did, the have also taken an armory newthinking May 2014 #5

Did you read the NYT article? PoliticalPothead May 2014 #6

Yes, the article that literally said they had Army weapons Recursion May 2014 #7

Most of those weapons were not paid for. They took them from police buildings. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #9

Maybe they didn't want to publish something they have no evidence for, being that the public sabrina 1 May 2014 #26

The entire f#ckin articles a lie. The NYT reporters never said there weren't any Russians in okaawhatever May 2014 #37

Original NYT article here dipsydoodle May 2014 #8

Those who support Western interference don't care about the truth malaise May 2014 #10

Same with those who support Russian intererence Duckhunter935 May 2014 #11

Well, there are no supporters of Russian Interference here and from interviews in the world wide sabrina 1 May 2014 #29

Ukraine doesn't want to hold the elections that Ukraine itself had scheduled? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #30

When was there an election? There was coup and a president was installed by a small fraction of sabrina 1 May 2014 #34

All of the individuals in the Ukrainian government were elected members of Parliament. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #35

Let them hold a real election of all those in the 'interim' govt. That is the ONLY way sabrina 1 May 2014 #41

It's not the truth. If you'd bother to read the NYT article, you'd realize they never said there okaawhatever May 2014 #38

Typical RT snowjob. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #12

Nothing in that RT article is false, so I don't see the spin you're referring to. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #13

You do know that presidential elections are scheduled this month, right? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #14

I'm sorry, when was there an election held? When did the people vote for the current regime? PoliticalPothead May 2014 #16

Clearly you don't understand parliamentary politics. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #18

The interim president and prime minister were not elected by the people. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #20

They're elected officials. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #22

Elected by a corrupt parliament, not the people. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #23

What are you going to do with yourself after the May 25th elections? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #25

If Right Sector thugs are still attacking and intimidating people, yes. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #27

You are giving Right Sector far more credit than they are probably due. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #28

Right Sector spearheaded the coup. They are a major element in the goings-on in Ukraine. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #36

"Anti-Kiev protesters" Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #43

You can choose to ignore the neo-Nazis in the interim government all you want. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #44

There was no election in Ukraine. And now nearly half the country does not accept the sabrina 1 May 2014 #32

The person you responded to is new here. Look at their recs and their posts and tell me if you think okaawhatever May 2014 #39

"...does not preclude Russian military intermingling and supplying these groups." Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #15

What's false in that article? We know we are supposed to be exposed to the 'Al Jazeera' treatment sabrina 1 May 2014 #31

It's misstating the Times article. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #33

GrahamWP_UK suggested that pro-unity protesters should have expected to be attacked by pro-russians penultimate May 2014 #47

He's a hack. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #48

Tommy, who do you trust for your news about events in Ukraine? KoKo May 2014 #51

I try to get a fair mix of reputable sources. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #53

Appreciate your reply ... KoKo May 2014 #59

The difference between RT and others... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #61

RT has several war correspondents on the ground in Ukraine. Not just one. You might not want to sabrina 1 May 2014 #50

Nothing that RT has put forward has indicated it is an objective news source. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #55

Whis is another good reason for America to stay out of the squabble. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #17

Uncritical use of the phrase "self-defense forces" makes me question the neutrality and reliability. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #19

Thank heavens RT is there to interpret the NYT for me cthulu2016 May 2014 #21

Well, there's always Catherina News.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #57

These guys self-declare themselves as Russian Bosonic May 2014 #46

And an hour after shooting that video, Simon Ostrovsky was seized and kept in a basement for 4 days Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #56

Apparently not Bosonic May 2014 #58

If there's not already a meme with this guy showing up everywhere NuclearDem May 2014 #60

Slovyansk is an interesting case. Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #52

Robert Parry titled it that way "Another NYT �Sort of� Retraction on Ukraine" jakeXT May 2014 #54

... according to RT...nt SidDithers May 2014 #62