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hedgehog

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24. As far as the second group goes -

Mon May 5, 2014, 10:32 AM

May 2014

"Tyson claimed in Episode 7—and rightfully so—that almost all Christian holidays are stolen from pagan or other holidays from the past, and they directly focus on Christmas, one of the most sacred of Christian holidays. "

"What Tyson and writers actually set out to do was explain why creationists are wrong for trying to proclaim the age of the earth based on Biblical scriptures. To do so you must trust that the dates in the Bible are accurate and historical events, yet an event like Christmas holds no weight. The holiday itself isn’t historical in the sense of Jesus' birth marking a particular date in time, because Romans had been celebrating that time of the year for centuries before. "

Since the Bible only gives a year for the birth of Jesus, suggesting that the Bible indicates a false date because Saturnalia preceded Christmas is a bit of a stretch.

If you really want to stump Creationists, why not point out that there are two different accounts of Creation?

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