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32. There was no election in Ukraine. And now nearly half the country does not accept the

Mon May 5, 2014, 03:59 PM

May 2014

Kiev 'Interim' Govt as legitimate. THAT is a fact.

And is they want to prove that fact to be WRONG, they need to hold an election as soon as possible which is what should have happened in the first place. People warned that Coups never result in anything but violence since just a fraction of the population participated in this one.

But we are seeing WHY they didn't hold an election. Looks like the experts on Ukraine were correct, they could not have won given the agenda they were pushing.

And people also predicted there will NOT be an election in May. I think they were correct there also, as we are already hearing murmurings that 'we can't have one under these circumstances'. Lol, maybe that's why they sent in the military to attack their own people.

So sad to see people dying when it was never necessary. Truly heart-breaking.

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No Russians among Slavyansk self-defense forces - NYT reporters [View all] PoliticalPothead May 2014 OP

This should be fun AnalystInParadise May 2014 #1

Bbbut..... So is the media starting to wake up, or are they realizing they can't newthinking May 2014 #2

Either way, it's nice to finally see some real journalism coming from the NYT PoliticalPothead May 2014 #3

Got it. Real journalism = shit you agree with. Propoganda = shit you disagree with. 11 Bravo May 2014 #40

Real journalism = going to the place where things are happening and talking to the people involved. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #42

+1000 joeybee12 May 2014 #45

No, they got caught so many times publishing lies and they are being trashed sabrina 1 May 2014 #24

Well stated, Sabrina 1... KoKo May 2014 #49

So, they have the same weapons as the army Recursion May 2014 #4

Just like Maidan did, the have also taken an armory newthinking May 2014 #5

Did you read the NYT article? PoliticalPothead May 2014 #6

Yes, the article that literally said they had Army weapons Recursion May 2014 #7

Most of those weapons were not paid for. They took them from police buildings. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #9

Maybe they didn't want to publish something they have no evidence for, being that the public sabrina 1 May 2014 #26

The entire f#ckin articles a lie. The NYT reporters never said there weren't any Russians in okaawhatever May 2014 #37

Original NYT article here dipsydoodle May 2014 #8

Those who support Western interference don't care about the truth malaise May 2014 #10

Same with those who support Russian intererence Duckhunter935 May 2014 #11

Well, there are no supporters of Russian Interference here and from interviews in the world wide sabrina 1 May 2014 #29

Ukraine doesn't want to hold the elections that Ukraine itself had scheduled? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #30

When was there an election? There was coup and a president was installed by a small fraction of sabrina 1 May 2014 #34

All of the individuals in the Ukrainian government were elected members of Parliament. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #35

Let them hold a real election of all those in the 'interim' govt. That is the ONLY way sabrina 1 May 2014 #41

It's not the truth. If you'd bother to read the NYT article, you'd realize they never said there okaawhatever May 2014 #38

Typical RT snowjob. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #12

Nothing in that RT article is false, so I don't see the spin you're referring to. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #13

You do know that presidential elections are scheduled this month, right? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #14

I'm sorry, when was there an election held? When did the people vote for the current regime? PoliticalPothead May 2014 #16

Clearly you don't understand parliamentary politics. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #18

The interim president and prime minister were not elected by the people. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #20

They're elected officials. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #22

Elected by a corrupt parliament, not the people. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #23

What are you going to do with yourself after the May 25th elections? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #25

If Right Sector thugs are still attacking and intimidating people, yes. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #27

You are giving Right Sector far more credit than they are probably due. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #28

Right Sector spearheaded the coup. They are a major element in the goings-on in Ukraine. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #36

"Anti-Kiev protesters" Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #43

You can choose to ignore the neo-Nazis in the interim government all you want. PoliticalPothead May 2014 #44

There was no election in Ukraine. And now nearly half the country does not accept the sabrina 1 May 2014 #32

The person you responded to is new here. Look at their recs and their posts and tell me if you think okaawhatever May 2014 #39

"...does not preclude Russian military intermingling and supplying these groups." Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #15

What's false in that article? We know we are supposed to be exposed to the 'Al Jazeera' treatment sabrina 1 May 2014 #31

It's misstating the Times article. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #33

GrahamWP_UK suggested that pro-unity protesters should have expected to be attacked by pro-russians penultimate May 2014 #47

He's a hack. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #48

Tommy, who do you trust for your news about events in Ukraine? KoKo May 2014 #51

I try to get a fair mix of reputable sources. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #53

Appreciate your reply ... KoKo May 2014 #59

The difference between RT and others... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #61

RT has several war correspondents on the ground in Ukraine. Not just one. You might not want to sabrina 1 May 2014 #50

Nothing that RT has put forward has indicated it is an objective news source. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #55

Whis is another good reason for America to stay out of the squabble. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #17

Uncritical use of the phrase "self-defense forces" makes me question the neutrality and reliability. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #19

Thank heavens RT is there to interpret the NYT for me cthulu2016 May 2014 #21

Well, there's always Catherina News.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #57

These guys self-declare themselves as Russian Bosonic May 2014 #46

And an hour after shooting that video, Simon Ostrovsky was seized and kept in a basement for 4 days Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #56

Apparently not Bosonic May 2014 #58

If there's not already a meme with this guy showing up everywhere NuclearDem May 2014 #60

Slovyansk is an interesting case. Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #52

Robert Parry titled it that way "Another NYT �Sort of� Retraction on Ukraine" jakeXT May 2014 #54

... according to RT...nt SidDithers May 2014 #62