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In reply to the discussion: Women [View all]BainsBane
(57,775 posts)249. Then there is this
But what the pregnancy manuals dont mention is a chilling fact that has been buried in death statistics for many years: Murder is now believed to be responsible for more pregnancy-associated deaths in this country than any other single cause, including medical complications such as embolism or hemorrhaging.
http://www.salon.com/2003/02/27/pregnancy_death/
In 2001, Cheng and Dr. Isabelle Horon conducted a study in Maryland to determine the leading cause of death among pregnant women from 1993 to 1998.
Of the 247 women who died while pregnant, homicide was found to be the leading cause of death, accounting for about 20 percent of the cases.
"Women tend to think pregnancy is a safety zone, especially if they are already in an abusive relationship," Cheng said. "But what we're seeing is that no woman is safe from domestic violence or its most severe consequences."
Fear of fatherhood
Though very few pregnant women actually become victims of homicide out of the 688 women murdered in Maryland over that five-year period, only 50 were pregnant such figures reveal a chilling trend.
As more statistics on pregnancy-related mortality become available, experts are beginning to see pregnancy as an aggravating factor that increases a woman's risk of being murdered.
"Pregnancy is obviously a big, life-changing event, especially for a man. The emotional and financial responsibilities involved are huge stones around their necks," said Pat Brown, a criminal profiler and president of the Sexual Homicide Exchange.
However, Brown said, if something happens to the wife and child, those responsibilities disappear.
"If he doesn't want the child, why doesn't he just leave her?" she said. "He can do that, but that doesn't eliminate the responsibilities: child support, alimony, then as they get older, the kids want to see you. It never ends."
Of the 247 women who died while pregnant, homicide was found to be the leading cause of death, accounting for about 20 percent of the cases.
"Women tend to think pregnancy is a safety zone, especially if they are already in an abusive relationship," Cheng said. "But what we're seeing is that no woman is safe from domestic violence or its most severe consequences."
Fear of fatherhood
Though very few pregnant women actually become victims of homicide out of the 688 women murdered in Maryland over that five-year period, only 50 were pregnant such figures reveal a chilling trend.
As more statistics on pregnancy-related mortality become available, experts are beginning to see pregnancy as an aggravating factor that increases a woman's risk of being murdered.
"Pregnancy is obviously a big, life-changing event, especially for a man. The emotional and financial responsibilities involved are huge stones around their necks," said Pat Brown, a criminal profiler and president of the Sexual Homicide Exchange.
However, Brown said, if something happens to the wife and child, those responsibilities disappear.
"If he doesn't want the child, why doesn't he just leave her?" she said. "He can do that, but that doesn't eliminate the responsibilities: child support, alimony, then as they get older, the kids want to see you. It never ends."
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/11/court.archive.peterson8/
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yes, of course i do, and by that i mean i am sure some raging misogynist thinks so. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2014
#4
a good indication of the misogyny, willfully, when it is an equal gender opportunity, but the finger
seabeyond
May 2014
#71
No Call Outs. Nothing to see here. Move along, Folks. Keep it moving. n/t
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#82
Why is this an issue? A majority of women don't use pregnancy to trap someone, but SOME women do.
sabrina 1
May 2014
#15
well, honestly - nobody in that picture is what I woud call good-looking ...
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#241
and some men poke holes in their condoms. flush pills down the toilet or hide them.
seabeyond
May 2014
#20
It was stupid ass sexist garbage putting that in the other thread with the mere purpose
seabeyond
May 2014
#34
I'm just wondering what constitutes some in your eyes. One or two? a few dozen?
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#35
Remember, Eve ruined it for everyone. Women are good for nothing tricksters that cannot be trusted.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#19
yup... personally, i put the blame on weak willed adam who shifts the blame and cannot own
seabeyond
May 2014
#22
yes. i would like to know also. i have asked a handful of poster, that say... all men are rapists
seabeyond
May 2014
#87
Men, gun lovers, and christians don't get posts hoping for death-by-rape directed at them
Scootaloo
May 2014
#130
In all my years of life, I've never known anyone to do this. But consider this:
Squinch
May 2014
#54
when he starts carrying a baby. why you leave out the obvious for your argument is telling.
seabeyond
May 2014
#65
You are now claiming that what I specifically argued against was "exactly what I was saying."
Squinch
May 2014
#90
Nope, we guys have no recourse if our partner decides to keep a surprise pregnancy.
Scootaloo
May 2014
#132
and then the argument is the same for both. one has to totally leave out the fact a woman has the
seabeyond
May 2014
#66
I know. When we start a conversation here, we should just make a list up front of which
Squinch
May 2014
#92
Next time one of these threads come up, we really should to that. Part of the Bingo series!
Squinch
May 2014
#246
and men equally used pregnancy as a means to get married too. that is the problem
seabeyond
May 2014
#67
clarification ... pretty sure some men have paticipated in this poll. Pretty sure CFLDem is a man.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#68
it appears four MEN used deceit getting woman preg to force her into marriage, or not leaving them.
seabeyond
May 2014
#74
that is my take on this situation. Laughably insulting to all involved.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#75
This whole premise of "trapping" is offensive to men and women. It absolves men from
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#73
I don't think that men are such a prize that I would burden myself with a kid just to "trap" one.
Beacool
May 2014
#79
I suspect my ex's ex-wife deliberately got pregnant and hid the pregnancy until it was too late.
moriah
May 2014
#98
I just assumed the posters identifying themselves as men were admitting to
etherealtruth
May 2014
#115
4 out of 5 are men that I know. I too assume they manipulated a preg on gf/wife
seabeyond
May 2014
#127
If by messing around, you mean pulling a prank on the polling numbers then I agree with you.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#166
Well, it it happened to one poster/post it is 'many'. Just don't apply that definition
The Straight Story
May 2014
#135
good lord, rrneck. I feel sorry for you. I really do. I never realized how truly pitiful you are.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#165
That is THE WHOLE POINT. You are arguing FOR the purpose of THIS thread.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#171
rrneck, after reading what all you have to say in this thread and the priorities you choose to rally
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#175
dude, you have lost it. I really hope this is your online persona you are trying to save face with
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#181
You are right. I can't do it. I can not sink that low. Leaving you twisting in the wind.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#186
I really don't think you have done what You think have done here. Good bye, rrneck.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#194
oh dear. you did that yourself. I have never seen a circle more completely drawn than what you
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#200
actually, this conversation meant a lot to me. it is the one where I say good bye to someone whom
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#203
He has twisted his morals into some of the most curled pretzel logic I have ever witnessed.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#176
Human Beings as a group have a remarkable capacity to engage in deceit of all kinds
tkmorris
May 2014
#211
Therefore, he can vote in polls and send PMs. Only when One is Flagged For Review is when
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#178
Hell no. It went the other way. I got pregnant and my ex badgered me into getting married
uppityperson
May 2014
#187
Actually, He upheld what the poll is about, whether it was his intention or not, I don't know
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#204
If all things are at least possible, then someone (more than likely) out there did such an act.
Rex
May 2014
#207
This does happen occasionally. Years ago, a detestable, dishonest woman I know told her boyfriend,
Zorra
May 2014
#205
but, Zorra ... can you not see that it is HIS own values that have :trapped: him.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#214
or you can throw them the rope, their choice how to use it and honestly after reading some of the
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#221
I'm not the one defending the actions of Zorra's "awful" acquaintance.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2014
#228
I defended NOTHING about THAT woman. SAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT HER AT ALL.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#229
why do you care what I think after all those names you just called me?
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#235
"You can't trap the willing" Like those who stay in an abusive relationship
The Straight Story
May 2014
#220
wow. You really did just equate domestic violence and spouse abuse with a man
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#223
I didn't say anything about any of that. what you are doing is trying to put words in my mouth
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#231
the man fears for his life, with good reason? can you post a more absurd/insulting analogy? nt
seabeyond
May 2014
#243
You know you are comparing apples to giant squids here, right? There is no relationship between
Squinch
May 2014
#248
Yes, I get that as well; and people can be manipulated by recognizing and playing
Zorra
May 2014
#245
yes, I really hope this man can come to grips with all this. He deserves to have a chance at
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#247
Yes. It's uncommon but there are always examples of even the most detestable behaviors.
Xithras
May 2014
#234
THAT is what YOU get out of this thread? Maybe you need to have your eyesight examined.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#224