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MisterP

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35. using Bruno (or Galileo, or Hypatia) as some sort of "science martyr" is one of those
Mon May 5, 2014, 11:26 PM
May 2014

things that just get retransmitted because they're "interesting" and "covered up"--but it's really in the same vein as "did you know that the IRS is illegal because Ohio was never a state"
but as a historian with a strong Renaissance interest I don't want to see an accurate cartoon about Bruno: I want to see something about Tommaso Campanella and his city based on Atlantis with a Solar temple at the center, its walls covered in hieroglyphs that automatically made the inhabitants better; I want to see THAT Dominican treating the Pope with music in the friggin' hypolydian mode (since that's Venus's musical scale) while arranging the current planetary positions with their respective gems on a Zodiacal circle carved on a table; I want to see Giulio Camillo's Teatro with the symbols that read you back as much as you read them; I want to see Paracelsus's salamanders; I want to see Agrippa writing about the star-dæmons that ruled each third of a Zodiacal sign; only then can we START talking about ol' Bruno
it's not just that this or that historic figure is being badly misappropriated as some technocratic goody two-shoes, or that they're the same sources as used by Jack Chick and Dan Brown: it's that that very worldview has been totally obliterated by any professional medieval or Renaissance history written after Aby friggin' Warburg

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using Bruno (or Galileo, or Hypatia) as some sort of "science martyr" is one of those MisterP May 2014 #35
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