Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:46 AM May 2014

All I want is for the Democrats to watch my back -- without a knife in hand [View all]

I regularly rant and rave here about how angry and frustrated I am with the Democratic Party, particularly its "Centrist" pro-corporate faction....And, yes, President Obama.

This latest crap about Net Neutrality crystallized the bigger problem to me -- and made me see it in very simple terms that applies to All issues related to Corporate Power and to the goal of Economic Justice and Democracy.

It boils down to this:

I'm an average person. I've got a life. I get busy with that life. I am willing (and enjoy) following and being engaged in bigger issues in my own tiny microscopic way. But for the most part, I have to focus on my own work and all the other personal stuff involved in life.

That's why I want the people who I support in politics and government positions to represent me.

I have my role, they have theirs. When they say they will watch out for my interests -- and will represent my opinions and philosophy and values in DC -- that's what I want and expect them to do. Just do the job they were hired to do. And do it in the way they said they would.

I'm merely one of many people, so I'm realistic about that. I know they're not going to do exactly what I want, how I want, all the time.

But I DO expect them to do what I want on the most basic level of consistently representing my needs, beliefs and basic goals for the direction we should be going as a society. Even if they occasionally fumble or do something I don't agree with, I can "forgive and forget" if a politician is generally consistent and honest and is an actual Liberal and Progressive.

I DON'T want to have to always be worrying about the people who claim to represent me. I don't want them to be actively working against my interests and beliefs. I don't want to feel that it's necessary to continually look over their shoulder to make sure they're not stabbing me in the back.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE HELPING THE WEALTHY AND POWERFUL TO BE TAKING FROM ME AND MY NEIGHBORS. I don't want them to be assisting the Corporate Oligarchs' relentless push to make our lives harder, and to undermine democracy to further a relentless drive to build private empires and enrich themselves beyond the pale of human decency.

I expect the GOP to do things like that. I expect the GOP to be shitty and push for things I disagree with. But I also expect the other party that is supposed to represent the political philosophy that competes with CONservatism to actually be an alternative to that.

I HATE It MORE when it feels like Democratic politicians are just as bad for me as the GOP.

I ESPECIALLY HATE IT when they claim to be for policies that are good for me and the majority of my neighbors, and claim to represent what we stand for -- but then turn around and do the opposite.

LATEST EXAMPLE; Claim to support Net Neutrality but appoint a corporate insider and lobbyist to run the agency (FCC) that is supposed to regulate the industry they are a shill for. And thus pave the way for the fox to guard the henhouse and turn the Internet over completely over to the bastards.

Why do that? Why should we even have to ask?

I LOVE THOSE DEMOCRATS who are honest and who are Liberal and Progressive. I Love those Democrats who walk their talk. And that also means Democrats who understand that Liberal/Progressive Populism is a MAINSTREAM set of American principles and values, not some little "fringe faction" who have to be placated and condescended to.

That's ultimately what we need more of. Ultimately, we need more Democrats who say they will represent us as Liberal Populists in a broad sense. And then, by God, actually represent us when they get into office -- NOT be sticking the knife in our backs.

196 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Watch it sonny, that thar' is "randroid" talk. Pholus May 2014 #1
ya dirty naderite Armstead May 2014 #3
How did I ever forget that one! :) Pholus May 2014 #4
A BIG K&R hobbit709 May 2014 #2
Just this week net neutrality, toll roads, internet IDs, insulting those opposed to TPP... Demo_Chris May 2014 #5
And why not? zeemike May 2014 #7
Yep. When so few demand representation we will not have representation. nt Demo_Chris May 2014 #16
One problem is the Tea Party types and Corporations demand representation and get it Armstead May 2014 #20
That's because the Teapublicans have the political backstop and the $$$... elzenmahn May 2014 #41
Obama made a good start on tat -- But once elected turned his back Armstead May 2014 #56
Hmmmm...I think the money is the largest part of the problem... elzenmahn May 2014 #127
The democratic party of today often ignores those that built it, as well as, millions and RKP5637 May 2014 #57
And that's my point... Armstead May 2014 #21
what are you going to do? <- The plantation or the pits aren't the only choices. jtuck004 May 2014 #107
Also the USDA has decided to change what ORGANIC They_Live May 2014 #19
Fuck! CrispyQ May 2014 #55
Also, if RMoney or McCain were pushing any of this crap and they would be, SammyWinstonJack May 2014 #87
You are absolutely correct Armstead May 2014 #148
Sssshhh, every time anyone mentions the Republican/Corporate Cabinet members there is some sabrina 1 May 2014 #174
Amen billhicks76 May 2014 #125
Excellent post MissDeeds May 2014 #128
I Like Your Name billhicks76 May 2014 #147
Unfortunately, well said. pangaia May 2014 #158
An excellent rant. The hits have been coming hard and fast lately. Autumn May 2014 #6
re: Net Neutrality: Tom Wheeler's response NorthCarolina May 2014 #8
Well, he's certainly not going to be honest -- Nor is his boss Armstead May 2014 #17
I feel your pain. ctsnowman May 2014 #9
Glad to kick this eloquent rant. I feel much the same. Scuba May 2014 #10
You can start by acknowledging just how clueless you are. Trust Buster May 2014 #11
How naive you must be to think that the 'game' and money just entered the equation with Bluenorthwest May 2014 #13
Given the current rules, money is the only thing that matters. Trust Buster May 2014 #22
That cart has long been in front of the horse -- Dems heped put it there Armstead May 2014 #27
You show weakness with your personal attack. Very telling. Thank you Trust Buster May 2014 #52
You started out on this thread with a personal attack Fumesucker May 2014 #132
you are the one who attacked us. nt hopemountain May 2014 #136
Says the person that apparently can't remember what he wrote three posts ago. JoeyT May 2014 #142
Elizabeth Warren. Read her new book, A Fighting Chance. That's where the answers are. JDPriestly May 2014 #100
+1. n/t Laelth May 2014 #160
"Us folks?" Maedhros May 2014 #110
Oh screw that cop-out shit -- This predates Citizens United by decades Armstead May 2014 #18
Chuck Shumer receives enough money from Wall Street...... Trust Buster May 2014 #25
A compelling message can overcome a lot of financial obstacles Armstead May 2014 #29
He didn't win without $1 billion in direct donations and another half billion... Trust Buster May 2014 #36
Votes. It's about votes. Money is one means to that end. But not the only one. Armstead May 2014 #38
Once Obama wins his second term he'll be free to take off the gloves and follow his heart pursuing GoneFishin May 2014 #84
What we "need" and you all always seem to forget..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #48
Winning the midterms is very important but we must also have one eye on 2016. rhett o rick May 2014 #99
No it doesn't matter 6 of one....half a dozen of the other...without winning the Midterms VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #111
I think H. Clinton will allow Wall Street to continue the looting of America. We need a progressive rhett o rick May 2014 #112
there's your problem right there... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #115
But of course you would. I guess it doesnt matter what their principles are. rhett o rick May 2014 #122
My principles say I am a Democrat....got a problem with THAT? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #129
"got a problem with THAT?" Really? Really? rhett o rick May 2014 #133
and I vote for the candidate my fellow Democrats and I select in the Primaries VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #138
I trust people that are worthy of trust not because the are Democrats. Not all rhett o rick May 2014 #151
I am talking about your fellow Democrats....not the politicians VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #155
"what do you hate about Primaries? " Insinuation by question. rhett o rick May 2014 #163
You mean like that heretic Elizabeth Warren? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #167
And even Joe Lieberman is better than ANY one the Republicans have... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #131
Yes I agree. But I wouldnt support him over Ned Lamont A TRUE DEMOCRAT. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #134
Then you JUST took back what you previously said.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #137
Your case is a little confusing. You support all Democrats regardless of their positions on issues ? rhett o rick May 2014 #162
Only to those that backpedal! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #168
Some it seems are easily manipulated by the oligarch-overloards. By making the rhett o rick May 2014 #169
it has nothing to do with any of that drivel....I am a Democrat... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #170
I know I've mentioned it before, but please do read Elizabeth Warren's new book. JDPriestly May 2014 #101
Of course I will read it.....BUT E. Warrren has endorsed Hillary's candidacy and VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #113
Elizabeth Warren doesn't run for jobs. Jobs run toward her. JDPriestly May 2014 #143
Elizabeth Warren doesn't lie......I don't need to read the book to know that. VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #161
Another good reason for drafting her for president if necessary. She doesn't lie. JDPriestly May 2014 #172
she doesn't want it...and HAS said so numerous times...AND she doesn't lie VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #173
I haven't said that she wants it. I have said that many of us want her. JDPriestly May 2014 #175
Are you planning to tickle her with feathers until she agrees to run for President.. VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #176
To some the only test of a candidate is whether or not they are a Democrat. rhett o rick May 2014 #126
Yes because just BEING a Democrat is not enough... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #139
You're wasting your time and energy JDPriestly,. 2banon May 2014 #144
If money were the end-all you claim jeff47 May 2014 #60
First off, "pal," I don't appreciate you Le Taz Hot May 2014 #71
First of all you can start by acknowledging just how rude it is to call someone on rhett o rick May 2014 #97
Plus 0ne thousand times one hundred! Auntie Bush May 2014 #141
Minus one thousand times one hundred Armstead May 2014 #165
You can start by acknowledging how clueless your detractors are. They deny you the right to want Vincardog May 2014 #12
Denying the significant influence of special interest money.... Trust Buster May 2014 #26
My position is the the OP is correct in wanting Democratic office holders to watch his back not Vincardog May 2014 #28
More of the same apparently Armstead May 2014 #30
The OP is correct but unrealistic. We are not the people who fill the politicians campaign coffers Trust Buster May 2014 #35
Actually inspire enough people to give a small donation -- Thats one way to overcome that Armstead May 2014 #40
Unrealistic? bvar22 May 2014 #82
IT is only "unrealistic" if we think our job is over on election day. They think they can forget us Vincardog May 2014 #85
What is realistic is to assume they migh do what they claim to want to do Armstead May 2014 #89
That would be and should be and I want it too, I was jsut responding to another nay sayer Vincardog May 2014 #91
To be accurate, Obama's Army for CHANGE was told to go home. bvar22 May 2014 #90
+1 nt laundry_queen May 2014 #185
Here is what I want and expect from my office holders. totodeinhere May 2014 #62
amen Armstead May 2014 #70
You summed up how a Republic is supposed to work Harmony Blue May 2014 #14
I know howyou feel. I've finally given up on the GOP. And a lot of "centrist" Dems seem mildly ... marble falls May 2014 #15
I just got a email from the head of a Union classykaren May 2014 #23
EXACTLY - You Hit Nail on the head. Armstead May 2014 #24
Because that President had to raise in excess of a $1 billion to win re-election. Trust Buster May 2014 #32
Candidates need votes. People have votes. Armstead May 2014 #37
That was cute. "Money is a means to an end". Trust Buster May 2014 #39
"Real World" a true cliche if ever I heard one Armstead May 2014 #43
Until we can figure out a way to change the system, it's all we have right now. Trust Buster May 2014 #46
You dont change the systenm until you start challenging the system Armstead May 2014 #51
The "real world" pap is just another way to demoralize the populace by driving expectations lower. myrna minx May 2014 #54
Demoralize the populace ? You're kidding, right ? Trust Buster May 2014 #78
I find your arguments thorough out this thread to be weirdly disingenuous. myrna minx May 2014 #81
People saying that surrender is "real world" answer are the ultimate cause of demoralization Armstead May 2014 #88
agreed. and challenge involves risk. tomp May 2014 #156
I believe they want to win -- it's governing they have a problem with Armstead May 2014 #166
you missed my point. tomp May 2014 #187
Well I agree with you about the bones and crumbs part -- but it doesn't have to be "always" Armstead May 2014 #189
You can throw all the Mbrow May 2014 #45
We lost the House because after the 2010 census, Republican controlled state legislatures Trust Buster May 2014 #47
*Democratic myrna minx May 2014 #50
+1000 noiretextatique May 2014 #72
... SammyWinstonJack May 2014 #92
Good catch Armstead May 2014 #103
LOL Enthusiast May 2014 #106
pwned bobduca May 2014 #140
And how did the GOP get the wherewithal to be able to do so much gerrymandering? totodeinhere May 2014 #69
I especially hate that part too. Octafish May 2014 #31
Here's how I see it. JNelson6563 May 2014 #33
We've had strong Dem majorities -- It will require much more than that Armstead May 2014 #34
...but look who is powering their money machine... elzenmahn May 2014 #42
Sadly the last time this was true JNelson6563 May 2014 #65
The average 2012 Senate campaign cost $10 million...... Trust Buster May 2014 #44
I would like that too but have we EVER had that? Kablooie May 2014 #49
Never 100 percent -- but a lot more than now Armstead May 2014 #53
I agree that the system has tilted a lot. Kablooie May 2014 #73
I worry that is may soon reach that point Armstead May 2014 #75
The Third Way has a message for you. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #58
And i have a message for them -- Armstead May 2014 #64
+100000000 I was just about to comment on the "rebuttals" in this thread. woo me with science May 2014 #66
It f'in amazes me Armstead May 2014 #77
you underestimate the Tiger Beat crowd Skittles May 2014 #120
LOL laundry_queen May 2014 #186
OMG go read some of their posts Skittles May 2014 #188
they're "Reagan Dems"--like all the neocons, in fact MisterP May 2014 #95
HA! SammyWinstonJack May 2014 #93
du rec. xchrom May 2014 #59
This is precisely why I have been arguing with the just vote crowd nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #61
The pool of candidates for those higher offices come from the lower offices. jeff47 May 2014 #67
Then show up at the polls. And bring your friends who don't bother to vote in midterms. jeff47 May 2014 #63
You're absoutely right in theory -- but in practice Dems always squander victory Armstead May 2014 #68
They don't respond because they fear the right, not the left. jeff47 May 2014 #76
One diagreement with that Armstead May 2014 #79
You are looking for instant results, given that you are complaining about jeff47 May 2014 #80
I used that as one example -- Armstead May 2014 #86
Again, doing anything about it requires an immediate change. jeff47 May 2014 #102
I'm not sure of what you are getting at Armstead May 2014 #104
Gotcha. It appears we were talking past each other. (nt) jeff47 May 2014 #105
K&R.... daleanime May 2014 #74
This is why I'm reluctant to let Hillary get behind me pscot May 2014 #83
+1000 I would not trust Hillary even with plastic cutlery. woo me with science May 2014 #96
We continue accepting the "lesser of two evils" argument. pa28 May 2014 #94
That, in a nutshell Armstead May 2014 #108
K&R. Thank you. My sentiments exactly. JDPriestly May 2014 #98
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2014 #109
Yep BlindTiresias May 2014 #114
I wonder that too Armstead May 2014 #119
Ordinary citizens can't even keep up with the Bills for Legislation because they are modified KoKo May 2014 #124
HUMONGOUS K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #116
this is why you'd want politicians out front smiting. firebrands actually work. NuttyFluffers May 2014 #117
Best OP on DU right now. woo me with science May 2014 #118
Amen! scarletwoman May 2014 #121
Thank you, you speak for me. scarletwoman May 2014 #123
Thanks, the feeling is mutual Armstead May 2014 #149
This is what I have been... WiffenPoof May 2014 #130
+1000 Raksha May 2014 #191
Sorry. No. Can. Do. DeSwiss May 2014 #135
^^^This! 1000+!^^^ n/t 2banon May 2014 #145
K&R'd Excellent Post, Armstead. 2banon May 2014 #146
Excellent Rant. blackspade May 2014 #150
The DEM Party has long been the Party of "We suck a little bit less than the GOPee." blkmusclmachine May 2014 #152
You Speak TRUTH. Thanks. K&R'ed. Tommymac May 2014 #153
Sadly, I must agree nikto May 2014 #154
In all honesty... 99Forever May 2014 #157
I don't totally agree with that Armstead May 2014 #164
k&r for a righteous rant. n/t Laelth May 2014 #159
I think you have it backwards treestar May 2014 #171
I suppose you didn't comprehend my post Armstead May 2014 #178
No party can represent your beliefs treestar May 2014 #184
Why do you think they want "fast track" trade deals? Armstead May 2014 #190
They want to fast track it. Egnever May 2014 #193
Concessions to whom? Armstead May 2014 #194
That's great rhetoric Egnever May 2014 #195
I'm well aware of that Armstead May 2014 #196
knr n/t slipslidingaway May 2014 #177
Respectfully, if that's what you want, move to Western Europe or Canada Hippo_Tron May 2014 #179
With all due respect I'd rather see attainable progress Armstead May 2014 #180
Okay, so get mad and do something about it! Hippo_Tron May 2014 #181
Well in my own tiny little ways I've been there done that for about 40 years now Armstead May 2014 #182
I get it, we're on the same page... Hippo_Tron May 2014 #183
K & R Raksha May 2014 #192
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»All I want is for the Dem...