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In reply to the discussion: No Russians among Slavyansk self-defense forces - NYT reporters [View all]KoKo
(84,711 posts)However, I don't feel that your sources are less biased than RT and others and that is why I try to keep up with what is being written from different points of view. It is almost impossible for there to be total unbiased reporting when there is such a dark history of what both USA & Russia have been up to for decades. The USA's involvement in botched "interventions," Regime Changes (disguised as bringing Democracy & Freedom) or claiming we are protecting other countries populations from choosing who they prefer to lead them by using CIA intervention to take out (what we call) "opposition" would lead me to be suspicious of our own propaganda. Knowing NYT reporting helped justify invading Iraq and the Washington Post's own sad history since it's glory days of "Watergate" reporting doesn't lead me to trust much of what is reported here in the US by MSM. There have just been too many lies to the American people.
Regarding Ukraine: Some of us do feel it was a "Coup" because of the visits by Nuland handing out her cookies and John McCain posting with the Neo-Nazi Fascist Right along with revelation of Nuland's phone promoting "Yats" (as she called him) who is now installed after the Coup. Plus the 5 Billion in "aid" that we had already spent in Ukriane (many of us knowing that "aid" from US is often very different from what what we are really doing.) So there is a core group here on DU who for a very long time have followed closely what our US has been up to and now that we have many more international sources available to us we like to use it to balance out our viewpoints.
So...you and I might agree to disagree that Russia is any worse that the USA in our land grabs and troop installations. Russia since the dissolution of the Soviet Union has been far better in their actions/lack of than the USA has been in the recent decades. (Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, AFRICOM and Nuland & McCain/Ukraine) And look at Cuba...(our own little Ukraine) that we have controlled with sanctions ...for what...50 years now? Before that South America for over a century.
So those of us here who have concerns about American Expansionism through meddling and CIA Ops over the Globe will vigorously disagree if US Policy involves us in more actions that we can't afford and which have brought death, distruction, dislocation to millions across the Middle East and thousands more in other actions where the Military Contractors work in secret under our direction.
And, we can agree to disagree but we shouldn't be excluding viewpoints that are different from what comes from US Government, USMSCorporate MEDIA, State Department, Think Tanks, Corporations policy whose agenda's have a pretty bad track record in the past decades.
Anyway...Just explaining what you might see as the "other side" in viewpoint. And hope you can keep an open mind to other viewpoints.