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OwnedByCats

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59. Um .... not even sure where to begin here.

Tue May 6, 2014, 02:40 PM

May 2014

Before I get called a wingnut, this is my disclaimer: I am 100% pro-choice, it's every woman's decision to make which is right for her - it should legal, safe, and easily accessible for all women.

However, it's not like having your damn teeth cleaned or just having a check up. Have you ever had one? Your comment about finally seeing one in action makes me doubt that you have, unless you meant on video. I for one have had one. To say it's "painless" - Really? Many woman find it painful physically, and some, while the decision was right for them at that time - do feel a sadness, or other painful feelings. Whether that comes immediately after or later on, it can be a sad time for a woman. If there are women who find it painless on both fronts, good for them. That is not the reality for many.

You do a disservice to make it out to be like getting a check up at the dentist. While it is a relatively simple and usually quick procedure in the first trimester like the woman in the OP, it's not to be trivialized to women in general because we are all different.

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This Woman Filmed Her Abortion to Show Other People it Doesn't Have to be Scary. [View all] Agschmid May 2014 OP

I went to a conservative Catholic high school Blue_Tires May 2014 #1

Silent Scream. Brickbat May 2014 #5

Saw "the silent scream" in public high school. karadax May 2014 #34

In public school? Which system or state? Blue_Tires May 2014 #37

this is wonderful, if for no other reason than to show a reasonable standard of care nashville_brook May 2014 #2

Ask any woman who "might" have had an early miscarriage HockeyMom May 2014 #3

I know, right. When I was 6 weeks preggers with my son I had to have a sonogram done all american girl May 2014 #57

We called it a tadpole until at least the fifth month. lapislzi May 2014 #164

Yes, she is brave and I'm sure she will be harassed by anti-abortion whackos BrotherIvan May 2014 #4

K&R for the truth. Brickbat May 2014 #6

The video (don't worry, not graphic at all - very calm and non-eventful) Triana May 2014 #7

Thanks for posting! Agschmid May 2014 #18

It's a bit of a stretch to call an abortion "non-eventful". Beausoir May 2014 #21

Sometimes they are.... giftedgirl77 May 2014 #27

Why? Honest question. nt uppityperson May 2014 #49

They might be... TeeYiYi May 2014 #64

Most of the women I helped had relief, not emotionally eventful beyond that. uppityperson May 2014 #65

The women I know... TeeYiYi May 2014 #66

For some, it was quite emotional. For most, not so much. And now, 30 yrs after working with the uppityperson May 2014 #67

My father... TeeYiYi May 2014 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author meaculpa2011 May 2014 #79

HIS grandchild would not be born from HIS pregnancy Ilsa May 2014 #86

I'm VERY pro-choice... TeeYiYi May 2014 #89

His grandchildren from his daughters don't count? Ilsa May 2014 #93

I don't either,... TeeYiYi May 2014 #100

Some men are that way. Mariana May 2014 #103

This may shock him Mariana May 2014 #102

It's not about DNA... TeeYiYi May 2014 #104

Seeing his lineage as coming to an end gollygee May 2014 #105

Amen. PeaceNikki May 2014 #106

Whether or not... TeeYiYi May 2014 #109

I don't think it should *necessarily* be considered a non-event gollygee May 2014 #119

You said upthread his genetic line was dying out. Mariana May 2014 #107

And that can be changed as well. PeaceNikki May 2014 #108

I also edited it.... TeeYiYi May 2014 #110

I mourn for the unicorn I will never have. PeaceNikki May 2014 #111

You jumped in... TeeYiYi May 2014 #113

this is a discussion board. i'm allowed to "jump in" without your permission. PeaceNikki May 2014 #114

You need to... TeeYiYi May 2014 #117

lol, I stand by my words. PeaceNikki May 2014 #118

Show me the post... TeeYiYi May 2014 #120

the fact that you brought it up on a discussion about emotional impact on the woman. PeaceNikki May 2014 #123

The "discussion"... TeeYiYi May 2014 #126

it's not support *I* need, it's all women. and more. lots more. PeaceNikki May 2014 #128

I think it IS you who needs my support... TeeYiYi May 2014 #129

you didn't read it. or you don't care. PeaceNikki May 2014 #130

This is really about "feelings" being used to support "Personhood" Ilsa May 2014 #153

Agreed. I am also a bit appalled at the idea that a HIGH SCHOOL GIRL should carry the weight of this PeaceNikki May 2014 #154

Well said. Ilsa May 2014 #155

He's an old man entitled to his opinion. I babylonsister May 2014 #125

Thank you, babylonsister. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #127

That's what I figured the grandfather was upset about. Ilsa May 2014 #124

Jesus Christ� TeeYiYi May 2014 #132

I understand why he would feel that way OwnedByCats May 2014 #145

Thank you, OwnedByCats. He is a good man. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #147

My sib looks back with no regrets. There is no one right way to feel or be, no expectations should uppityperson May 2014 #136

Thank you uppityperson... TeeYiYi May 2014 #140

I'm sorry your father is sad. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #161

Thanks, BlancheSplanchnik... TeeYiYi May 2014 #166

All of the women you know who've had abortions? I seriously doubt that. PeaceNikki May 2014 #88

Why would you call me a liar... TeeYiYi May 2014 #90

I never called you a liar PeaceNikki May 2014 #92

Agreed. Those few who have regrets Ilsa May 2014 #94

the millions who have no shame or regret aren't saying so PeaceNikki May 2014 #95

The women I know... TeeYiYi May 2014 #97

exactly. it's about one in three women. for many it is a relief or non eventful PeaceNikki May 2014 #98

Possibly because it's personal Lazy Daisy May 2014 #133

Exactly the point of the article in the OP. MOST women don't regret it. It's a fact. PeaceNikki May 2014 #134

Seems like this is alive and well... Agschmid May 2014 #146

True in my family. 840high May 2014 #121

Thank you. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #122

I am sad for them. JNelson6563 May 2014 #177

The only emotion I felt was extreme relief. roody May 2014 #112

That's a good thing... TeeYiYi May 2014 #116

I can't imagine calling it that. 840high May 2014 #139

Yeah, my thoughts exactly Supersedeas May 2014 #156

I'm in "awe" that she was able to make the right decision for herself herding cats May 2014 #56

An abortion counselor who ended up needing an abortion? rocktivity May 2014 #8

That has to be the stupidest comment I've seen all day. eggplant May 2014 #10

I think the laugh is the worst part BainsBane May 2014 #24

What is that supposed to mean? Texasgal May 2014 #12

I read her essay or up till the part where she gave the reasons for not using BC. dilby May 2014 #26

She said she didn't want the side effect of depression either. Why have you omitted that? Squinch May 2014 #35

All things to consider Supersedeas May 2014 #179

You're offended? eggplant May 2014 #36

We should all run our medical and life decisions past you first. PeaceNikki May 2014 #40

Ummm Texasgal May 2014 #41

Bullshit, and you know it. appal_jack May 2014 #48

Offended? Why is a woman's choice for BC any of your business? myrna minx May 2014 #54

baby aspire Supersedeas May 2014 #181

Your offense is duly noted. Raine1967 May 2014 #78

Spoken by someone who doesn't have to take pills, Ilsa May 2014 #91

It's none of your business gollygee May 2014 #99

these are weighty issues on a young mind Supersedeas May 2014 #157

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #171

A friend of mine works at a clinic and needed an abortion when her IUD failed. LeftyMom May 2014 #13

just because she is professional in this subject doesn't mean Blue_Roses May 2014 #14

As offended as I am about the post, I'm WAY more offended at LEAVE IT ALONE voters #1 and 4. eggplant May 2014 #15

Good GAWD! Texasgal May 2014 #16

Yup... Rediculous comments. Agschmid May 2014 #19

This doesn't surprise me at all. The real DU members have begun to listen raptly to the socks. Squinch May 2014 #29

You know....you can alert on the results--take a look the bottom of the email. GOes right to admin. msanthrope May 2014 #38

I wish I could say I was surprised by those comments. City Lights May 2014 #47

Disgusting, but not surprising. myrna minx May 2014 #53

You can alert on the results. Raine1967 May 2014 #84

Hide is right Supersedeas May 2014 #167

If it will cheer you up any, I'll be featuring this story rocktivity May 2014 #25

So you think that gives you a pass to post insulting crap about a woman who needs an abortion? Squinch May 2014 #30

So? Texasgal May 2014 #42

You are replying to yourself, telling yourself you can cheer yourself up by posting insulting stuff? uppityperson May 2014 #50

Mission accomplished. rocktivity May 2014 #180

Are you aware of a fool proof method of contraception? Because there are none. Squinch May 2014 #28

There's always at least one Judgy McJugdeface PeaceNikki May 2014 #32

Wow. You are better than this, Rocktivity. SunSeeker May 2014 #45

Rather like a mechanic needing his oil changed, or a dentist needing teeth cleaned? uppityperson May 2014 #55

Yup, and sometimes doctors need doctors, and JaneyVee May 2014 #62

Do you usually post such stupidity? HERVEPA May 2014 #80

Any woman might find herself needing an abortion. gollygee May 2014 #101

I think this is great! It was so cool to finally one in action! K&R 951-Riverside May 2014 #9

There is nothing "cool" about a woman having an abortion. It's a legal procedure I support. Beausoir May 2014 #22

Its not a big deal. Its just a procedure and once the stigma goes away its pretty cool to see 951-Riverside May 2014 #23

So feel free not to call it cool. Others feel differently. I'd suggest you stop chastising, but I Squinch May 2014 #31

There's nothing "uncool" about it, either. nt cyberswede May 2014 #43

Your opinion, not mine. Having control of my reproduction and the right/ability to terminate IS PeaceNikki May 2014 #44

+1 SunSeeker May 2014 #46

Yup. Agschmid May 2014 #83

Whoosh. It is cool there is a video showing what happens to counter misconceptions and lies about uppityperson May 2014 #51

Have you ever had an abortion? Raine1967 May 2014 #82

Yes, I have. In fact, I have had two abortions. RebelOne May 2014 #87

I was asking the question of Beausoir. Raine1967 May 2014 #96

Well, it seems as if Beausoir was not replying, so I did. n/t RebelOne May 2014 #135

All good. Raine1967 May 2014 #142

There's is a different approach to medicine, sexuality, fertility and life--so follows the language Supersedeas May 2014 #160

Um .... not even sure where to begin here. OwnedByCats May 2014 #59

A friend of mine in college chose to have an abortion deutsey May 2014 #68

Similarly, it's horrible and wrong to imply that women MUST agonize, feel sad and guilty. PeaceNikki May 2014 #85

I didn't say women MUST feel sad, guilty, or agonize over it OwnedByCats May 2014 #137

Sooo cool! Yep! Just like taking a crap or flossing your teeth! Awesome! Beausoir May 2014 #138

Your sanctimony only helps make the case for the anti-choicers. Yeah, I said it. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #168

I don't find abortion "cool". 840high May 2014 #141

I wonder how many death threats she's gotten from the "pro-life" crowd. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #11

I suspect they'll claim she got pregnant on purpose to make the film. aikoaiko May 2014 #17

And I hope her workplace won't become a target. rocktivity May 2014 #20

The social stigma is worse than the pelvic procedure although a Mifepristone (or RU-486) pill is Sunlei May 2014 #33

It's the illegal ones Republicans want that are horrifying. n/t DirkGently May 2014 #39

It's important that people know that not all women experience guilty, sadness, etc. hamsterjill May 2014 #52

I truly don't understand this paragraph B2G May 2014 #58

I wonder how she may feel about it down the road. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #60

Makes no sense to me either. newcriminal May 2014 #61

In stirrups, with your business all up in someone's face. It is birth-like. PeaceNikki May 2014 #69

More pap smear-like B2G May 2014 #70

I don't think so. It's a procedure that takes longer than a swab. Fine, you don't get it. I do. PeaceNikki May 2014 #71

What don't I get? B2G May 2014 #73

To her. You don't get how she felt it was. It's ok. Nobody said you must agree with her. PeaceNikki May 2014 #74

I doubt you really do get it. Beausoir May 2014 #143

you, you, you PeaceNikki May 2014 #148

Cardiac Bypass surgery is "cool" now? Beausoir May 2014 #173

yes, it saves lives PeaceNikki May 2014 #174

Dude. Follow along. Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #175

Dude. Follow along. Beausoir May 2014 #183

I had many OwnedByCats May 2014 #149

One of my Catholic school mates has already posted this on FB, stating how disgusting blueamy66 May 2014 #63

If I were to choose a public face for reproductive rights, this woman would not have been it. Nine May 2014 #75

We prochoicers have to stop being so sensitive to the other side. They don't care and never will. PeaceNikki May 2014 #76

I'm sure age plays into it somewhat. Nine May 2014 #77

Perhaps, but I think that is why the attacks on our rights are working. PeaceNikki May 2014 #81

This woman is a woman. Therefore she is a perfectly acceptable poster child. Period. Squinch May 2014 #131

The Navel Gazers on this thread JanMichael May 2014 #115

Apparently... not exactly the reaction I was expecting when I posted it. Agschmid May 2014 #144

+2000000 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #169

Jesus on a hatrack, that's progressive Supersedeas May 2014 #170

she is indeed one very brave woman azurnoir May 2014 #150

Thanks for sharing this hueymahl May 2014 #151

For some it's a a solemn and difficult choice, not all. Not most. That's the whole point. PeaceNikki May 2014 #152

Another... Yup. Agschmid May 2014 #159

K&R... troublesome_mind May 2014 #158

in the current milieu, that is one hell of a brave woman. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #162

+1 Agschmid May 2014 #163

Hey Agschmid! :) BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #184

Agreed Gothmog May 2014 #165

:) BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #185

It would be so COOL if she was getting a pedicure WHILE having an abortion WHILE YouTubing it! Beausoir May 2014 #172

Well, so many anti-choicers seem to think that women Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #176

Agreed! While she was at it, she should have had someone fire up the blender to whirl up some Beausoir May 2014 #182

K&R Solly Mack May 2014 #178