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PeaceNikki

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154. Agreed. I am also a bit appalled at the idea that a HIGH SCHOOL GIRL should carry the weight of this

Wed May 7, 2014, 09:33 AM

May 2014

It's just so odd.

A bit of perspective from the other side: I have had a couple abortions. I have also assisted a 16 yer-old in getting one. I don't wear any of that on my sleeve, but I am not ashamed of it either. In any case, the decision I made was right for me and in the case of the high-schooler, right for her. I had my one child at 18. It's been very very VERY hard. Not everyone is up for the task. I was not up for it again and my child's needs were a large part of my decision. If my relatives or the man's relatives or the girl's relatives are reeling on their death beds over MY decision, fuck 'em. It is and was not my responsibility to fulfill their life dreams. And certainly not by taking on an insurmountable task of raising a child.

The whole idea angers me and it feels a lot like the only point of bringing it into the conversation was to show women that their decisions hurt others. And that's bullshit.

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This Woman Filmed Her Abortion to Show Other People it Doesn't Have to be Scary. [View all] Agschmid May 2014 OP

I went to a conservative Catholic high school Blue_Tires May 2014 #1

Silent Scream. Brickbat May 2014 #5

Saw "the silent scream" in public high school. karadax May 2014 #34

In public school? Which system or state? Blue_Tires May 2014 #37

this is wonderful, if for no other reason than to show a reasonable standard of care nashville_brook May 2014 #2

Ask any woman who "might" have had an early miscarriage HockeyMom May 2014 #3

I know, right. When I was 6 weeks preggers with my son I had to have a sonogram done all american girl May 2014 #57

We called it a tadpole until at least the fifth month. lapislzi May 2014 #164

Yes, she is brave and I'm sure she will be harassed by anti-abortion whackos BrotherIvan May 2014 #4

K&R for the truth. Brickbat May 2014 #6

The video (don't worry, not graphic at all - very calm and non-eventful) Triana May 2014 #7

Thanks for posting! Agschmid May 2014 #18

It's a bit of a stretch to call an abortion "non-eventful". Beausoir May 2014 #21

Sometimes they are.... giftedgirl77 May 2014 #27

Why? Honest question. nt uppityperson May 2014 #49

They might be... TeeYiYi May 2014 #64

Most of the women I helped had relief, not emotionally eventful beyond that. uppityperson May 2014 #65

The women I know... TeeYiYi May 2014 #66

For some, it was quite emotional. For most, not so much. And now, 30 yrs after working with the uppityperson May 2014 #67

My father... TeeYiYi May 2014 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author meaculpa2011 May 2014 #79

HIS grandchild would not be born from HIS pregnancy Ilsa May 2014 #86

I'm VERY pro-choice... TeeYiYi May 2014 #89

His grandchildren from his daughters don't count? Ilsa May 2014 #93

I don't either,... TeeYiYi May 2014 #100

Some men are that way. Mariana May 2014 #103

This may shock him Mariana May 2014 #102

It's not about DNA... TeeYiYi May 2014 #104

Seeing his lineage as coming to an end gollygee May 2014 #105

Amen. PeaceNikki May 2014 #106

Whether or not... TeeYiYi May 2014 #109

I don't think it should *necessarily* be considered a non-event gollygee May 2014 #119

You said upthread his genetic line was dying out. Mariana May 2014 #107

And that can be changed as well. PeaceNikki May 2014 #108

I also edited it.... TeeYiYi May 2014 #110

I mourn for the unicorn I will never have. PeaceNikki May 2014 #111

You jumped in... TeeYiYi May 2014 #113

this is a discussion board. i'm allowed to "jump in" without your permission. PeaceNikki May 2014 #114

You need to... TeeYiYi May 2014 #117

lol, I stand by my words. PeaceNikki May 2014 #118

Show me the post... TeeYiYi May 2014 #120

the fact that you brought it up on a discussion about emotional impact on the woman. PeaceNikki May 2014 #123

The "discussion"... TeeYiYi May 2014 #126

it's not support *I* need, it's all women. and more. lots more. PeaceNikki May 2014 #128

I think it IS you who needs my support... TeeYiYi May 2014 #129

you didn't read it. or you don't care. PeaceNikki May 2014 #130

This is really about "feelings" being used to support "Personhood" Ilsa May 2014 #153

Agreed. I am also a bit appalled at the idea that a HIGH SCHOOL GIRL should carry the weight of this PeaceNikki May 2014 #154

Well said. Ilsa May 2014 #155

He's an old man entitled to his opinion. I babylonsister May 2014 #125

Thank you, babylonsister. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #127

That's what I figured the grandfather was upset about. Ilsa May 2014 #124

Jesus Christ� TeeYiYi May 2014 #132

I understand why he would feel that way OwnedByCats May 2014 #145

Thank you, OwnedByCats. He is a good man. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #147

My sib looks back with no regrets. There is no one right way to feel or be, no expectations should uppityperson May 2014 #136

Thank you uppityperson... TeeYiYi May 2014 #140

I'm sorry your father is sad. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #161

Thanks, BlancheSplanchnik... TeeYiYi May 2014 #166

All of the women you know who've had abortions? I seriously doubt that. PeaceNikki May 2014 #88

Why would you call me a liar... TeeYiYi May 2014 #90

I never called you a liar PeaceNikki May 2014 #92

Agreed. Those few who have regrets Ilsa May 2014 #94

the millions who have no shame or regret aren't saying so PeaceNikki May 2014 #95

The women I know... TeeYiYi May 2014 #97

exactly. it's about one in three women. for many it is a relief or non eventful PeaceNikki May 2014 #98

Possibly because it's personal Lazy Daisy May 2014 #133

Exactly the point of the article in the OP. MOST women don't regret it. It's a fact. PeaceNikki May 2014 #134

Seems like this is alive and well... Agschmid May 2014 #146

True in my family. 840high May 2014 #121

Thank you. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #122

I am sad for them. JNelson6563 May 2014 #177

The only emotion I felt was extreme relief. roody May 2014 #112

That's a good thing... TeeYiYi May 2014 #116

I can't imagine calling it that. 840high May 2014 #139

Yeah, my thoughts exactly Supersedeas May 2014 #156

I'm in "awe" that she was able to make the right decision for herself herding cats May 2014 #56

An abortion counselor who ended up needing an abortion? rocktivity May 2014 #8

That has to be the stupidest comment I've seen all day. eggplant May 2014 #10

I think the laugh is the worst part BainsBane May 2014 #24

What is that supposed to mean? Texasgal May 2014 #12

I read her essay or up till the part where she gave the reasons for not using BC. dilby May 2014 #26

She said she didn't want the side effect of depression either. Why have you omitted that? Squinch May 2014 #35

All things to consider Supersedeas May 2014 #179

You're offended? eggplant May 2014 #36

We should all run our medical and life decisions past you first. PeaceNikki May 2014 #40

Ummm Texasgal May 2014 #41

Bullshit, and you know it. appal_jack May 2014 #48

Offended? Why is a woman's choice for BC any of your business? myrna minx May 2014 #54

baby aspire Supersedeas May 2014 #181

Your offense is duly noted. Raine1967 May 2014 #78

Spoken by someone who doesn't have to take pills, Ilsa May 2014 #91

It's none of your business gollygee May 2014 #99

these are weighty issues on a young mind Supersedeas May 2014 #157

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #171

A friend of mine works at a clinic and needed an abortion when her IUD failed. LeftyMom May 2014 #13

just because she is professional in this subject doesn't mean Blue_Roses May 2014 #14

As offended as I am about the post, I'm WAY more offended at LEAVE IT ALONE voters #1 and 4. eggplant May 2014 #15

Good GAWD! Texasgal May 2014 #16

Yup... Rediculous comments. Agschmid May 2014 #19

This doesn't surprise me at all. The real DU members have begun to listen raptly to the socks. Squinch May 2014 #29

You know....you can alert on the results--take a look the bottom of the email. GOes right to admin. msanthrope May 2014 #38

I wish I could say I was surprised by those comments. City Lights May 2014 #47

Disgusting, but not surprising. myrna minx May 2014 #53

You can alert on the results. Raine1967 May 2014 #84

Hide is right Supersedeas May 2014 #167

If it will cheer you up any, I'll be featuring this story rocktivity May 2014 #25

So you think that gives you a pass to post insulting crap about a woman who needs an abortion? Squinch May 2014 #30

So? Texasgal May 2014 #42

You are replying to yourself, telling yourself you can cheer yourself up by posting insulting stuff? uppityperson May 2014 #50

Mission accomplished. rocktivity May 2014 #180

Are you aware of a fool proof method of contraception? Because there are none. Squinch May 2014 #28

There's always at least one Judgy McJugdeface PeaceNikki May 2014 #32

Wow. You are better than this, Rocktivity. SunSeeker May 2014 #45

Rather like a mechanic needing his oil changed, or a dentist needing teeth cleaned? uppityperson May 2014 #55

Yup, and sometimes doctors need doctors, and JaneyVee May 2014 #62

Do you usually post such stupidity? HERVEPA May 2014 #80

Any woman might find herself needing an abortion. gollygee May 2014 #101

I think this is great! It was so cool to finally one in action! K&R 951-Riverside May 2014 #9

There is nothing "cool" about a woman having an abortion. It's a legal procedure I support. Beausoir May 2014 #22

Its not a big deal. Its just a procedure and once the stigma goes away its pretty cool to see 951-Riverside May 2014 #23

So feel free not to call it cool. Others feel differently. I'd suggest you stop chastising, but I Squinch May 2014 #31

There's nothing "uncool" about it, either. nt cyberswede May 2014 #43

Your opinion, not mine. Having control of my reproduction and the right/ability to terminate IS PeaceNikki May 2014 #44

+1 SunSeeker May 2014 #46

Yup. Agschmid May 2014 #83

Whoosh. It is cool there is a video showing what happens to counter misconceptions and lies about uppityperson May 2014 #51

Have you ever had an abortion? Raine1967 May 2014 #82

Yes, I have. In fact, I have had two abortions. RebelOne May 2014 #87

I was asking the question of Beausoir. Raine1967 May 2014 #96

Well, it seems as if Beausoir was not replying, so I did. n/t RebelOne May 2014 #135

All good. Raine1967 May 2014 #142

There's is a different approach to medicine, sexuality, fertility and life--so follows the language Supersedeas May 2014 #160

Um .... not even sure where to begin here. OwnedByCats May 2014 #59

A friend of mine in college chose to have an abortion deutsey May 2014 #68

Similarly, it's horrible and wrong to imply that women MUST agonize, feel sad and guilty. PeaceNikki May 2014 #85

I didn't say women MUST feel sad, guilty, or agonize over it OwnedByCats May 2014 #137

Sooo cool! Yep! Just like taking a crap or flossing your teeth! Awesome! Beausoir May 2014 #138

Your sanctimony only helps make the case for the anti-choicers. Yeah, I said it. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #168

I don't find abortion "cool". 840high May 2014 #141

I wonder how many death threats she's gotten from the "pro-life" crowd. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #11

I suspect they'll claim she got pregnant on purpose to make the film. aikoaiko May 2014 #17

And I hope her workplace won't become a target. rocktivity May 2014 #20

The social stigma is worse than the pelvic procedure although a Mifepristone (or RU-486) pill is Sunlei May 2014 #33

It's the illegal ones Republicans want that are horrifying. n/t DirkGently May 2014 #39

It's important that people know that not all women experience guilty, sadness, etc. hamsterjill May 2014 #52

I truly don't understand this paragraph B2G May 2014 #58

I wonder how she may feel about it down the road. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #60

Makes no sense to me either. newcriminal May 2014 #61

In stirrups, with your business all up in someone's face. It is birth-like. PeaceNikki May 2014 #69

More pap smear-like B2G May 2014 #70

I don't think so. It's a procedure that takes longer than a swab. Fine, you don't get it. I do. PeaceNikki May 2014 #71

What don't I get? B2G May 2014 #73

To her. You don't get how she felt it was. It's ok. Nobody said you must agree with her. PeaceNikki May 2014 #74

I doubt you really do get it. Beausoir May 2014 #143

you, you, you PeaceNikki May 2014 #148

Cardiac Bypass surgery is "cool" now? Beausoir May 2014 #173

yes, it saves lives PeaceNikki May 2014 #174

Dude. Follow along. Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #175

Dude. Follow along. Beausoir May 2014 #183

I had many OwnedByCats May 2014 #149

One of my Catholic school mates has already posted this on FB, stating how disgusting blueamy66 May 2014 #63

If I were to choose a public face for reproductive rights, this woman would not have been it. Nine May 2014 #75

We prochoicers have to stop being so sensitive to the other side. They don't care and never will. PeaceNikki May 2014 #76

I'm sure age plays into it somewhat. Nine May 2014 #77

Perhaps, but I think that is why the attacks on our rights are working. PeaceNikki May 2014 #81

This woman is a woman. Therefore she is a perfectly acceptable poster child. Period. Squinch May 2014 #131

The Navel Gazers on this thread JanMichael May 2014 #115

Apparently... not exactly the reaction I was expecting when I posted it. Agschmid May 2014 #144

+2000000 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #169

Jesus on a hatrack, that's progressive Supersedeas May 2014 #170

she is indeed one very brave woman azurnoir May 2014 #150

Thanks for sharing this hueymahl May 2014 #151

For some it's a a solemn and difficult choice, not all. Not most. That's the whole point. PeaceNikki May 2014 #152

Another... Yup. Agschmid May 2014 #159

K&R... troublesome_mind May 2014 #158

in the current milieu, that is one hell of a brave woman. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #162

+1 Agschmid May 2014 #163

Hey Agschmid! :) BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #184

Agreed Gothmog May 2014 #165

:) BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #185

It would be so COOL if she was getting a pedicure WHILE having an abortion WHILE YouTubing it! Beausoir May 2014 #172

Well, so many anti-choicers seem to think that women Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #176

Agreed! While she was at it, she should have had someone fire up the blender to whirl up some Beausoir May 2014 #182

K&R Solly Mack May 2014 #178