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115. I am a pro-Second Amendment liberal Democrat

Reply to BainsBane (Reply #112)

Wed May 7, 2014, 09:40 AM

May 2014

Go ahead, call me a Republican. I dare you.

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Hillary Clinton Goes THERE: "Gun control laws have grown too lax and need to be tightened" [View all] kpete May 2014 OP

She's getting all female-problemed and wants to take mah gun NightWatcher May 2014 #1

Laugh all you want, but this is a problem. appal_jack May 2014 #2

You sound concerned. nt msanthrope May 2014 #4

You sound vapid. appal_jack May 2014 #5

You seem concerned. nt msanthrope May 2014 #6

You seem redundant. nt appal_jack May 2014 #7

I'm not she just blew any chance of ever winning the primary oneofthe99 May 2014 #45

Warren isn't running. nt msanthrope May 2014 #71

No she didn't... Agschmid May 2014 #79

Is Warren pro-gun and anti-gun control? BainsBane May 2014 #113

How many elected Dems, period, are explicitly anti-gun control? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #191

Depends on the state , south and midwest is not NYC or CT or CA oneofthe99 May 2014 #202

She supports the 2nd but would support an AWB if it was placed in front of her oneofthe99 May 2014 #200

What is all the fuss.. GOPee May 2014 #209

you're saying Hillary blew her chance of winning the primary b/c of gun control? CreekDog May 2014 #197

No way: "Hillary could come forward with concrete proposals toward expanding background..." FSogol May 2014 #8

It's as if gungeoneers think we don't know who is posting there. nt msanthrope May 2014 #20

They'll really lose their minds when she wins. FSogol May 2014 #41

The right wing is gonna go nuckin' futs. nt msanthrope May 2014 #70

+1,000 nt MADem May 2014 #60

I think I will laugh, yes. DanTex May 2014 #11

Actually Populist_Prole May 2014 #24

Like I said, I haven't seen any evidence of that. At all. DanTex May 2014 #31

I have. Seriously Populist_Prole May 2014 #87

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Brainstormy May 2014 #67

I agree. Hopefully this is just a way for her to introduce what she does find acceptable for gun okaawhatever May 2014 #13

Well, any progressive stance will rile up the conservative base. DanTex May 2014 #16

It's not about being for or against gun control so much as defining where you stand. I think Hillary okaawhatever May 2014 #33

She just needs to be specific hack89 May 2014 #64

Oh, I think they'll paint her (or any Democrat) as a gun-grabber. groundloop May 2014 #117

90% of Americans support universal background checks. 65% think we already have them. Scuba May 2014 #18

She did not call for universal background checks. former9thward May 2014 #29

Okay, she should've been a little more specific, maybe. Still doesn't make this a major gaffe. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #193

I agree with your analysis Populist_Prole May 2014 #22

I happen to agree with you... TeeYiYi May 2014 #35

Anyone who votes based on being pro-2A BainsBane May 2014 #112

I am a pro-Second Amendment liberal Democrat derby378 May 2014 #115

This was my point BainsBane May 2014 #142

Dems will never pass strict gun control hack89 May 2014 #151

Your point is fair derby378 May 2014 #182

+100 billh58 May 2014 #116

Well, I look forward to the 90% margin of victory. No need to even campaign? nt appal_jack May 2014 #121

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #137

Really? Is there a Republican sitting in the White House? BainsBane May 2014 #138

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #139

Polls show 90 percent of the country favors stricter gun control BainsBane May 2014 #141

well there goes the white suburban male idiot vote. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #157

She can afford to do this. Paladin May 2014 #3

She might be able to afford it and she might not, but Congressional Democrats can't. Lasher May 2014 #10

1994? Really? The NRA hasn't fed you guys a new talking point in 20 years? DanTex May 2014 #12

Yes, 1994. Really. Are you afraid to debate the issue? Lasher May 2014 #14

Afraid? LOL. NRA talking points make me shudder! DanTex May 2014 #17

Those "talking points" are those of Bill Clinton. former9thward May 2014 #34

You do know that Hillary is Bill's wife, right? DanTex May 2014 #36

No, never had a clue. former9thward May 2014 #38

I know! It's just like this... derby378 May 2014 #50

not just 1994 forthemiddle May 2014 #48

"Democrat lawmakers" CreekDog May 2014 #198

It appears he is. n/t Skip Intro May 2014 #54

I am disappointed but not surprised. This is often a place for fair debate but not in this thread. Lasher May 2014 #108

When people do debate BainsBane May 2014 #143

But I am not the gungeon crowd. I am an individual. Lasher May 2014 #168

bad behavior? BainsBane May 2014 #192

I didn't think so. Lasher May 2014 #208

Good. I'm glad she's weakening her position as front-runner. closeupready May 2014 #9

Sure, because anyone who would vote for a Democrat wants lax gun control laws. Beacool May 2014 #23

Well, you are the one who untruthed about her 'atoning' for her vote closeupready May 2014 #25

Sure, I'm for the Second Amendment. Beacool May 2014 #43

Says nothing about muskets; anyway, you just go on closeupready May 2014 #49

That's the type of arms they had at that time. Beacool May 2014 #55

So the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to electronic media, only the written word? hack89 May 2014 #63

Funny how that always makes them stop and think. (n/t) derby378 May 2014 #80

Whatever. You're doing a good job. Keep it up. closeupready May 2014 #65

you've just sunken her chances!!111!11111!! she's doooomed now... dionysus May 2014 #165

Our forefathers could not have foreseen the power of the arms that we have nowadays. Beacool May 2014 #166

They did, however, foresee the need to change the Constitution hack89 May 2014 #170

Hate to say it but their muskets were state of the art at that time Packerowner740 May 2014 #173

The whole point is that arms were needed at that time for survival. Beacool May 2014 #183

I'm all for the Bill of Rights Cartoonist May 2014 #122

What is a 'gun nut'? If that's what you think I am, I certainly am not hiding, closeupready May 2014 #125

Cover Cartoonist May 2014 #132

I think perhaps you've got this backwards. closeupready May 2014 #135

I certainly am not happy with the SQ Cartoonist May 2014 #146

That's fine. That's going to be a struggle you'll have to fight closeupready May 2014 #152

I am not a crusader Cartoonist May 2014 #153

The NRA meanit May 2014 #203

Both the president and the party platform would disagree with you about the BOR hack89 May 2014 #140

I said well regulated Cartoonist May 2014 #147

Armor piercing bullets are illegal hack89 May 2014 #148

I remember different Cartoonist May 2014 #149

then again Cartoonist May 2014 #150

From a more authoritative source - the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence hack89 May 2014 #169

That's what we said. Cartoonist May 2014 #174

How did they legally obtain the APA? hack89 May 2014 #176

pot Cartoonist May 2014 #178

"I'm opposed to armor-piercing bullets for starters." hack89 May 2014 #180

The ATF is a Federal Law Enforcement agency with the power of arrest hack89 May 2014 #181

reasonable cause Cartoonist May 2014 #210

Why the fixation on APA hack89 May 2014 #211

No Problemo Cartoonist May 2014 #212

I understand your frustration hack89 May 2014 #213

The ATF most certainly can arrest people and have done so on numerous occasions. IronGate May 2014 #184

what is an AP round and why are you opposed. SQUEE May 2014 #175

armor piercing Cartoonist May 2014 #179

what do you consider an AP round, vice what ATF considers AP SQUEE May 2014 #185

You need to research better Lurks Often May 2014 #187

I do. RKBA is not the only issue in my universe. Unfortunately, Democrats are falling apart TheKentuckian May 2014 #46

Or re-instating the CDC's research on gun-violence in America denied us by the gun-lobby LanternWaste May 2014 #126

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #194

Hillary: Ban teh Gunz! aikoaiko May 2014 #15

Bangunzi! leeroysphitz May 2014 #73

That's funny. aikoaiko May 2014 #74

I like it! n/t Mugu May 2014 #85

DUzy Flying Squirrel May 2014 #111

Without specifics, this statement is useless. Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #19

She's shaking the tree LuvLoogie May 2014 #110

Not quite useless. Orsino May 2014 #119

That presupposes... Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #120

I would never encourage anyone to watch Fox... Orsino May 2014 #123

I don't think we're likely to agree on that point. Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #124

The individuals we know aren't really the problem. Orsino May 2014 #130

Like the one in Georgia perhaps? Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #134

Last I looked... Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #144

I think that it's safe for most people to assume Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #155

Oh, oh, I hope Hillary learned to duck. Beacool May 2014 #21

as will the gun nutters with a (D) after their name AKA Reagan Dems PubsFU May 2014 #26

Our own resident DU Gun Enthusiasts are providing plenty of apoplexy. Paladin May 2014 #28

Yup. And Beacool already covered that point: "The Right will be apoplectic" DanTex May 2014 #32

Precisely. Paladin May 2014 #40

Wendy Davis. Liberal. Open-carry advocate. derby378 May 2014 #51

LOL, but you love me when I vote Democratic. aikoaiko May 2014 #69

Yeah, accent on the "WHEN I vote Democratic." Paladin May 2014 #83

I'm probably more likely to vote for Hillary than some of DU's "good progressives" aikoaiko May 2014 #86

I would vote for Hillary in a heartbeat. Just like I voted for President Obama hack89 May 2014 #88

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #195

Yes, I noticed......... Beacool May 2014 #44

Oh, no, you didn't. You realize she's a founding member of 3rd Way? closeupready May 2014 #66

And...she is a little light on specifics. Nice soundbite though. The Straight Story May 2014 #27

The question is how far can she go on this and still win in the general election. Lurks Often May 2014 #30

In some places it may need to be tightened, but not NYC Reter May 2014 #37

I don't think NYC needs more handguns. DanTex May 2014 #39

They are only for the privileged oneofthe99 May 2014 #47

Are they giving away free guns somewhere? BrotherIvan May 2014 #93

Like all the gun shop owners said........... oneofthe99 May 2014 #42

And a lot of gun shops have confederate flags hanging, put up bigoted videos, pander to white wing Hoyt May 2014 #53

Because if you want to win a primary you have to win some southern states oneofthe99 May 2014 #56

Democrats are not as obsessed with gunz as the right/white wing toters, accumulators, and militias. Hoyt May 2014 #58

You write that as if you aren't obsessed with GUNZ yourself. aikoaiko May 2014 #72

Obsessed with retricting those like this, and those that enable them. Hoyt May 2014 #76

If you say so. aikoaiko May 2014 #77

Not just Southern states. Dems almost lost control of CO senate last year. Skip Intro May 2014 #59

Would you vote against her -- or any Dem proposing same -- because of you are into gunz? Hoyt May 2014 #81

Didn't work that way in CO. Skip Intro May 2014 #82

First, it's questionable what gun rights are. Second, majority of those who would vote against a Dem Hoyt May 2014 #84

Will you support Bloomberg if he goes after pro-gun Dems? nt hack89 May 2014 #89

Blomberg is not a Dem. I won't vote for him. Now, you answer same question above. Hoyt May 2014 #90

I would vote for her in a heartbeat hack89 May 2014 #91

Good deal. Hoyt May 2014 #92

I would say nice dodge, but it was actually a sad dodge. Skip Intro May 2014 #95

Yes, although their pandering to gunners who are usually Rwing, callous, bigots, is quite sad. Hoyt May 2014 #98

Left "white" out again. Why the sudden change, Hoyt? n/t Skip Intro May 2014 #100

Somebody sure sounds bigoted, Hoyt. n/t Skip Intro May 2014 #94

Definitely bigoted against gun promoters, accumulators, toters, militias, etc. Hoyt May 2014 #96

Gee, you left "white" out of that post, Hoyt. Oversight? n/t Skip Intro May 2014 #97

Good, you are catching on. Hoyt May 2014 #99

To? That you change your tune when called out out, Hoyt? Skip Intro May 2014 #101

Nope. You obviously realized I am talking about right/white wing bigots Hoyt May 2014 #102

Gee, you don't sound like a bigoted hypocrite at all, Hoyt. Skip Intro May 2014 #105

There's no doubt she will lose on this , big time oneofthe99 May 2014 #104

Yep. But I would like to know where she honestly stands on the issue. Skip Intro May 2014 #106

The NRA was certain that their guns would be getting grabbed the moment he was elected Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #156

Looking back , If Obama could do a do over oneofthe99 May 2014 #158

I'm sure that an AWB was the last thing on anybody's minds at that particular time Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #159

It was way on the back burner , we had the economy in the shitter , a full blown war still oneofthe99 May 2014 #160

What is your basis for your assertions about his desire for an AWB as part of his "legacy"? Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #161

It's a hot button issue for a candidate running as a first term President oneofthe99 May 2014 #163

A lot of those folks are paranoid nitwits. Obama is no genuine threat to their guns. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #196

A lot of those people vote Democrat oneofthe99 May 2014 #201

Millions of gun owners vote Democrat. I know that. But I'm talking specifically about the kind of nomorenomore08 May 2014 #206

Women seem to have a lot more guts than male politicians on this issue. I like it. Hoyt May 2014 #52

Hillary mailer on guns from 2008, attacking Obama. Skip Intro May 2014 #57

Politically Crepuscular May 2014 #61

Puzzles me as well. There is little or nothing to be gained... Eleanors38 May 2014 #107

Push for UBCs and stay away from Diane Feinstein and she should be ok. nt hack89 May 2014 #62

Milk toast statement. BlueJac May 2014 #68

Good for Hillary mwrguy May 2014 #75

I love you for this,Hillary mainstreetonce May 2014 #78

I think having specific policy ideas ZombieHorde May 2014 #103

Good for her...knr joeybee12 May 2014 #109

Good. The majority of Americans want that. fried eggs May 2014 #114

Sigh. I am convinced that this is a big-time LOSING issue for Democrats. Laelth May 2014 #118

You don't think Warren has gone there and will again? wyldwolf May 2014 #129

She has, and she probably will again. Laelth May 2014 #145

I don't think that it's a PRESSING issue per se Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #162

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #127

That's a valid question. It's possible she's decided against running, closeupready May 2014 #136

Que Up Death Threats HRC otohara May 2014 #128

Events in the last several years have more and more Americans choosing sides on this wyldwolf May 2014 #131

Where this gets interesting Proud Public Servant May 2014 #133

She really needs to clarify what SevenSixtyTwo May 2014 #154

My, my, my. Look at all the Gun Enthusiasts on this thread, demanding details from Hillary. Paladin May 2014 #172

+1000000 Hoyt May 2014 #177

nice try, SQUEE May 2014 #186

67% of your recent posts are in Gun Control/RKBA. Nice try. (nt) Paladin May 2014 #188

AND I AM STILL A DEMOCRAT, AND STILL GOING TO VOTE THAT WAY, SQUEE May 2014 #189

You and the people you surround yourself with are here on a Democratic talk site...... Paladin May 2014 #190

nice assumption, as if this board is the end all of my political life. SQUEE May 2014 #199

Better be nice to me.....I'm one of the Nice Ones. Paladin May 2014 #204

my side of the issue? odd SQUEE May 2014 #205

Nice try. (nt) Paladin May 2014 #207

Hillary is the ONLY Dem with a real chance to win that would think about saying that. BootinUp May 2014 #164

Saying versus doing. One's pretty easy. The other, not so much. blkmusclmachine May 2014 #167

I voted for her in the 2008 primaries Packerowner740 May 2014 #171