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221. Even if it wasn't, if there were no inappropriate relationship, Bill Clinton would not have

Wed May 7, 2014, 10:55 AM

May 2014

admitted that there was - which he did because of the dress. Before there was talk of that dress, he simply said she was delusional.

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Monica Lewinsky made a poor choice when she had sex with a married man. [View all] MoonRiver May 2014 OP

I'm Still Not Convinced That the Whole Thing... harrose May 2014 #1

Funny you should use the word smear. After all, there's that stained Blue Dress... nt Xipe Totec May 2014 #4

Was the DNA from the dress tested? harrose May 2014 #5

You should really do your own research. But since you asked. Xipe Totec May 2014 #7

Any chance at all... harrose May 2014 #11

They did a lot of things, but apparently not that. nt Hekate May 2014 #13

OK, if you're so sure and trusting... harrose May 2014 #14

If the whole thing was made up, why wouldn't the President say he was innocent to this day? Reter May 2014 #92

There is a subtle difference between skepticism and willful ignorance. Xipe Totec May 2014 #194

What you are doing here is not skepticism. nt. NCTraveler May 2014 #209

You misspelled "troll." nt Dreamer Tatum May 2014 #218

Do you think that all those Republicans who were exposed for having affairs during that sabrina 1 May 2014 #169

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Even if it wasn't, if there were no inappropriate relationship, Bill Clinton would not have karynnj May 2014 #221

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Nicely put. Xipe Totec May 2014 #196

Honestly, that sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #8

Nixon reportedly had a Chinese mistress... DonViejo May 2014 #37

I read that as: Bush and I had a long-standing affair, etc. undeterred May 2014 #41

I resent that. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #75

I don't think Ford did either Reter May 2014 #96

I wouldn't care if he had sex with Moncia Lewinsky's goat - but that's preposterous Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #226

Exactly. distantearlywarning May 2014 #2

Yep, she could care less. And her sexy cover photo proves she just wants attention. MoonRiver May 2014 #3

Agreed. I posted in a related thread that if... 3catwoman3 May 2014 #56

Monica really can't win. Feron May 2014 #79

Thank you. 840high May 2014 #91

She was well aware that Bill was hitched. moriah May 2014 #103

and Bill just happened to forget he was hitched. Whisp May 2014 #119

Neither are victims here. Had she somehow not known he was married, it'd be different. moriah May 2014 #122

Has Bill Clinton agreed to a VF interview/photo shoot? MADem May 2014 #236

+1 million Louisiana1976 May 2014 #59

yet, Bill has been able to live a decent life Texasgal May 2014 #9

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There is such a thing as bad publicity ? Texasgal May 2014 #21

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Plus Dorian Gray May 2014 #39

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wrong WRONG grasswire May 2014 #78

Agreed customerserviceguy May 2014 #146

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WOW! Just WOW! Behind the Aegis May 2014 #171

See post #199 customerserviceguy May 2014 #200

"Monica was Jewish, did Israel get cut some kind of break that she blackmailed him into" alp227 May 2014 #173

Jury kept it too... apparently everyone has lost it tonight. Agschmid May 2014 #175

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Hey there you should re-read your post... Agschmid May 2014 #174

I just picked one known aspect of her life customerserviceguy May 2014 #199

I appreciate your response, thank you for that. Agschmid May 2014 #215

I suppose that's true customerserviceguy May 2014 #241

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Every president who screwed around was blackmailable. grasswire May 2014 #165

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Somehow I would have guessed that about you. In_The_Wind May 2014 #204

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It was a nation crisis!!!!!!!!! meanit May 2014 #203

YOU would never hold her to a higher standard Texasgal May 2014 #50

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did you miss the part where Bill was humiliated and impeached? grasswire May 2014 #77

Yes, this.... Dorian Gray May 2014 #38

Good point! Texasgal May 2014 #45

I have good points Dorian Gray May 2014 #211

Talk to Ken Starr meanit May 2014 #205

And another slut-shaming thread. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #10

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Well said. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #63

Monica is a "slut" but Bill, the serial adulterer is a "fool." Le Taz Hot May 2014 #68

Bill's a slut, too, and a fool because he *was* old enough to know better. However.... moriah May 2014 #106

Could we PLEASE Le Taz Hot May 2014 #109

There's not a male equivalent that has the same connotation sweetie. moriah May 2014 #111

So you perpetuate the mysogeny Le Taz Hot May 2014 #114

Reading the passive aggression in your posts is like having my own nails ground on a chalkboard. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #150

It's passive-aggressive to say that a person who chooses to mess around with someone who's married.. moriah May 2014 #152

Killing someone with kindness is one of the purest forms of passive aggression. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #153

I call men, women, children, dogs, cats, and plants "sweetie". Don't feel special. moriah May 2014 #154

It is not the word but the usage that I speak of. Which you demonstrate succinctly. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #155

Since you fail to take the high road, I shall. moriah May 2014 #157

As I observed elsewhere intaglio May 2014 #172

Yeah -- and either of them could have said it. Hence, both in the wrong for not! moriah May 2014 #178

So adolescents who "choose" to have sex with adult teachers or priests or rock stars intaglio May 2014 #182

EXCUSE you? moriah May 2014 #185

The issue is power intaglio May 2014 #193

OMG, you mean that my ex who was my team lead took advantage of me? He had Teh Power! moriah May 2014 #220

There is a HUGE difference between you and your ex and the PRESIDENT of the US and an intern karynnj May 2014 #222

Of course. So is the difference between consensual adultery between grown-ups and pedophillia. moriah May 2014 #223

Please link to any post - ever - that I have made that equates pedophellia and adultery karynnj May 2014 #228

Please read the edit where I thought you were the person I was talking to. thanks. moriah May 2014 #229

So, by your own admission you were not an immature intern intaglio May 2014 #230

Did Bill? No. I read the books. moriah May 2014 #231

And you need to get over the idea that consensual sex is always appropriate intaglio May 2014 #232

*boggle* Of course it wasn't appropriate. He's married. Duh. moriah May 2014 #234

As if Bill didn't have any Texasgal May 2014 #74

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So what does that make Bill Clinton? Le Taz Hot May 2014 #101

There is a post around here somewhere about Monica's sexual history Whisp May 2014 #125

Is that the same one that brought up her Le Taz Hot May 2014 #129

Yep JanMichael May 2014 #188

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Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. eom MoonRiver May 2014 #17

What is up with all of this the slut shaming? waddirum May 2014 #40

You call it slut shaming -- I, like the OP, call it poor choice-making rocktivity May 2014 #58

I agree, you made a poor choice when you decided to intaglio May 2014 #177

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There it is. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #102

The problem is when the two adults are from different levels of a workplace hierarchy. alp227 May 2014 #181

Let's see what's in the OP: Slut shaming, female hysteria myth...hmmm what else... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #18

Monica is the one who's putting herself out there. MoonRiver May 2014 #20

She's kept silent for more than one and a half decades and is finally telling her story... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #24

I didn't state or imply that she is a slut. MoonRiver May 2014 #36

Let's see, you called her delusional and completely undeserving of sympathy or consideration. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #46

I'm not angry. Not at all. MoonRiver May 2014 #49

The issue here is that Texasgal May 2014 #51

Didn't I state that he also made a poor choice? MoonRiver May 2014 #55

Your OP focuses on Monica Texasgal May 2014 #71

Yes, because she's making herself news. MoonRiver May 2014 #85

You're angry and afraid this may damage future elections for Democrats. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #60

I don't care what she does. My OP was simply an observation. MoonRiver May 2014 #86

There is no such thing as an OP that is simply an observation. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #144

My observation was that she made a poor choice that resulted in consequences MoonRiver May 2014 #190

No. That's not quite true. She has spoken. She did an interview with Barbara Walters, and she MADem May 2014 #184

As if Bill wont? Texasgal May 2014 #25

Don't you know? TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #26

Oh what a pant load. Texasgal May 2014 #32

I suppose it never occurred to you that she might have had sex with him... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #35

Failing to put any amount of responsibility on a guy you idol worship intaglio May 2014 #179

I do not care. I didn't care then, I don't care now. truebluegreen May 2014 #19

Thank you JustAnotherGen May 2014 #189

To be kind malaise May 2014 #23

Malaise, you always know how to get to the heart of the situation! MoonRiver May 2014 #27

My brother was visiting recently malaise May 2014 #42

You're frank with a fun twist! MoonRiver May 2014 #43

LOL malaise May 2014 #47

Well stated. misterhighwasted May 2014 #30

OMG! Do we really need links about a long DEAD story? chillfactor May 2014 #29

If it's an "old story" customerserviceguy May 2014 #148

Who gives a shit anymore? Honestly. That was 17 years ago! Neoma May 2014 #31

Geez... no shit! Texasgal May 2014 #34

I know partially why... Neoma May 2014 #44

in any other context Niceguy1 May 2014 #183

And that's the entire world's business STILL because? Neoma May 2014 #210

If Hillary runs, I wonder if she'll write a book and cash in LittleBlue May 2014 #33

She and Hillary should appear on Oprah together, and hug each other and stuff. Nye Bevan May 2014 #62

There once was a gal named Lewinsky Nye Bevan May 2014 #48

Ah yes, the New Yorker limerick contest winners, right? Blue Owl May 2014 #54

....... Louisiana1976 May 2014 #67

Holy shi- LittleBlue May 2014 #98

Jury Says Leave It. Skip Intro May 2014 #121

Thanks. Whoopsie by Juror 7 there, looked like he or she wanted to hide. Nye Bevan May 2014 #137

Speaking of W Bobbie Jo May 2014 #141

I remember that one. I thought it was funny at the time. Enthusiast May 2014 #187

*** Warren DeMontague May 2014 #168

Yeah... It's All The "Slut's" Fault... Cause Men Just Can't Help Themselves Don'tcha Know... WillyT May 2014 #57

I guess you have to admit there was a teeny tiny imbalance of power in that relationship, Nye Bevan May 2014 #61

Word !!! WillyT May 2014 #65

...^ that 840high May 2014 #94

He should take responsibility for his behavior. distantearlywarning May 2014 #97

What Consequences ??? - IT's NOBODY Else's Business !!! WillyT May 2014 #99

Not if he's the president of the US. distantearlywarning May 2014 #100

She Was 19, And An Intern... He Was The Most Powerful Person On The Planet... WillyT May 2014 #105

she was 21 and an employee dsc May 2014 #131

Thank You For The Correction... Makes All The Difference, No ??? WillyT May 2014 #134

well to be fair a 21 year old is considered a full adult dsc May 2014 #135

Depends On The State... And I Ain't Defending Anyone... My Problem Is... WillyT May 2014 #138

In no state can a 19 year old drink dsc May 2014 #139

Shes disgusting. I remeber she had a line of handbags and she was promoting them on HSN SummerSnow May 2014 #64

They only went after Bill? Texasgal May 2014 #72

Yes, the conservatives went after Bill Clinton. if they went after Monica it was for show. SummerSnow May 2014 #104

BS, Monica Lewinsky's life was ruined while Hill used it as a springboard for her political career krawhitham May 2014 #66

Ruined? How? nt Logical May 2014 #89

So you agree with this idiot? moriah May 2014 #110

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Agreed otohara May 2014 #80

I only posted in this thread b/c her post was hidden RainDog May 2014 #82

It made her millions Gore1FL May 2014 #73

She sure did leave the White House... The Midway Rebel May 2014 #83

I salute you! Gore1FL May 2014 #88

Clinton was the one that made the mistake.. Feron May 2014 #76

Feminists Don't Slut Shame RainDog May 2014 #81

Cherchez la femme? marshall May 2014 #84

LOL RainDog May 2014 #87

While I disagree with the post you responded to... what, Bill's just so good women's panties.... moriah May 2014 #124

cherchez la femme RainDog May 2014 #128

I Was a Jury Member for Your Comment mckara May 2014 #143

someone alerted on my comment? RainDog May 2014 #147

She wasn't a part of the affair so she was completely blameless Warpy May 2014 #159

what does that have to do with what I said? RainDog May 2014 #163

Because men clearly have no free will of their own. cyberswede May 2014 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #208

True, but the cheatee is not as bad as the cheater Reter May 2014 #90

I'll always give the benefit of the doubt that they were hoodwinked into it. moriah May 2014 #107

Monica is a woman who wheniwasincongress May 2014 #108

You really think she had no responsibility for what happened? moriah May 2014 #118

I said at the time, she should have moved to France Warpy May 2014 #112

I wonder why she is inserting herself back into the spotlight after all these years. Beausoir May 2014 #113

For all you know RainDog May 2014 #115

What nonsense. Are you claiming that Hillary forced Monica to get all dressed up in virginal white Beausoir May 2014 #120

Since Skinner already posted the same thing RainDog May 2014 #123

So, you believe that Hillary forced Lewinsky to dress up in a white dress and give an interview? Beausoir May 2014 #133

give it a break RainDog May 2014 #136

Her name has bobbed to the surface lately customerserviceguy May 2014 #151

I'll say the same thing about Clinton that I said about Tiger Woods: Iggo May 2014 #117

Apparently four out of seven democrats agree... Leave Monica Alone!! lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #126

Slut shaming is despicable, no matter who the target is. nt cyberswede May 2014 #142

At least one of those was a new troll. Another was actually someone calling out slut shaming. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #149

She went to the White House boasting to her friends of earning presidential knee-pads... lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #217

She did make a poor choice, regardless of what the Linda Tripp's may be saying. madinmaryland May 2014 #127

Not a victim. Not then, not now. Zambero May 2014 #130

That scheming temptress. That evil seductress. That brazen hussy. Nye Bevan May 2014 #145

It doesn't matter if she came on to him, he still should have said no. moriah May 2014 #161

She had sex with the President rudolph the red May 2014 #132

I wonder this: Why do people say that Monica is a rival to Hillary? Raine1967 May 2014 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie May 2014 #156

Her interview was with Vanity Fair marshall May 2014 #202

The responses in this thread are eye-opening... YoungDemCA May 2014 #158

The "shameful" part was Clinton's pathetic attempt to cover his sorry ass. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #160

DU Rec MohRokTah May 2014 #162

This thread is a disaster. Multiple hidden posts, and failed silly alerts, too. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #170

What is it about these threads ? dipsydoodle May 2014 #192

It's a perfect storm for DU - a Dem president about whom opinion is divided muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #195

That was why I didn't post the subject dipsydoodle May 2014 #198

They didn't have sex. MADem May 2014 #176

She kept the blue dress...I always found that fascinating. nt msanthrope May 2014 #197

She knew what happened in the case of other 'bimbo eruptions' customerserviceguy May 2014 #201

It definitely shows foresight on her part...that she intended for her msanthrope May 2014 #207

I think she was used by Tripp, etc. RainDog May 2014 #213

Coulter wasn't just a 'pixie.' She wrote the definition of oral sex that Paula Jones's msanthrope May 2014 #216

Clearly, ML was used customerserviceguy May 2014 #242

Quite a stretch from a corsage pressed between the pages of the family encyclopedia, certainly! MADem May 2014 #235

Let he who is without sin etc. LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #180

You know, she was 22 when she did all those things steve2470 May 2014 #191

I hope Monica writes a book and makes the millions she deserves hack89 May 2014 #206

The fact that this crap is even being discussed on a liberal board Evergreen Emerald May 2014 #212

How is "the real victims, as everybody knows, were Hillary and Chelsea Clinton" "feeding into ... muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #233

How easy it is to get DU all worked up over something MineralMan May 2014 #214

Dave Chapelle Calista241 May 2014 #219

She's an intern, and he's the fucking president, and that's the subject line you go with? Orsino May 2014 #224

AS long as they don't scare the horses - I don't care who has sex with who - Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #225

++ FarCenter May 2014 #227

But to the OP's point, maybe Hillary and Chelsea cared. MH1 May 2014 #238

I have no idea what you mean when you say, " she should acknowledge that she did wrong." Douglas Carpenter May 2014 #239

And it would have been left to them back then, MoonRiver May 2014 #240