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MADem

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76. How many posters are saying this stuff? Two? Three? Even five?

Wed May 7, 2014, 01:56 PM

May 2014

That's hardly a preponderance of people engaging in a concerted effort to disparage this middle aged woman with a rather public and lurid history by mentioning sexual elements of her past.

There was "a condemnation" regarding her abortion? A single one? That's hardly a preponderance, either.

It's a few people expressing an opinion. Not all opinions have validity. By getting hyperbolic about them, you grant them more attention than they merit.

I think you are way off base with this remark:

This is sounding like a rape trial by more than a few.

Likening the expressing of a dumb-ass opinion about Monica's "worldliness" to a "rape trial" is the thing that is offensive, IMO.

Rape is a VERY serious thing. Your comment trivializes it by comparing a few stupid anonymous internet comments about the Bill-Monica dalliance to a courtroom procedure following a sexual assault.

It's just not the same.

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Poll: Do you support the attempts to slut-shame Monica Lewinsky [View all] stevenleser May 2014 OP

It's just the media spinning up gossip for busybodies that have nothing better to do than newthinking May 2014 #1

I think it is good she is taking responsibility applegrove May 2014 #2

Is that what she's doing? mattclearing May 2014 #5

It would be better if she'd tell reporters to fuck off Warpy May 2014 #28

I don't know why this name is out there again. Xyzse May 2014 #3

Fair question. It's because Monica is doing interviews with several media including Vanity Fair. stevenleser May 2014 #4

I see... Xyzse May 2014 #9

See my #13 below... stevenleser May 2014 #14

People pay attention to Beyonce lyrics? Xyzse May 2014 #15

''...so that it is out there.'' Octafish May 2014 #17

We already *KNOW* Monica's goddamned story Blue_Tires May 2014 #71

It's not "slut-shaming" to blame both of them equally for committing adultery. moriah May 2014 #6

I don't consider it justified. Someone else's marriage is not my business. stevenleser May 2014 #7

Plus a fucking thousand! Violet_Crumble May 2014 #10

It was with a President of the USA in a room off the oval office and because Clinton KoKo May 2014 #33

It could have been Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with a candlestick. I don't care. stevenleser May 2014 #36

It certainly was our "beeswax" We citizens had to pay for the investigation in tax dollars KoKo May 2014 #42

That is the fault of the congress. nt stevenleser May 2014 #46

so clinton had zero culpability? frylock May 2014 #49

congress made him lie for almost a year? Whisp May 2014 #52

There should have been no investigation to begin with. No laws were broken. Even the... stevenleser May 2014 #53

You're probably right about that, but that investigation could have taken 5 minutes of time Whisp May 2014 #55

He didn't commit perjury. He lied in a DEPOSITION which ended up not being relevant to the case. To sabrina 1 May 2014 #94

Yeah, same reason we "have to pay" for Benghazi investigations. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #84

Actually, it was a cigar. Arugula Latte May 2014 #44

that is so not a mental image I want. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #83

Other people are using Lewinsky to slut-shame Bill and even Hillary. n/t pnwmom May 2014 #39

I'm pretty sure you can't slut shame a man. Whisp May 2014 #54

I went to the Urban Dictionary and elsewhere looking for the equivalent name pnwmom May 2014 #57

sure it can be used, but the difference in history between men and women and sex Whisp May 2014 #68

When the tea baggers go after Bill Clinton for his "relations" pnwmom May 2014 #73

So the ethics of a grown man abusing his authority are of no interest to you intaglio May 2014 #58

I don't buy that at all. stevenleser May 2014 #65

Yup and only one needed to say "No," intaglio May 2014 #67

And neither did, as two adults with full agency. Nor did either have a duty to do so. stevenleser May 2014 #72

I have said the Ms Lewinski appeared immature intaglio May 2014 #75

No where on the marriage certificate Sissyk May 2014 #21

Mis-read intaglio May 2014 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser May 2014 #66

*Other* No I don't support shaming... but I also don't really care that much about this story. Agschmid May 2014 #8

If we at DU don't slut-shame her, then who will? Orrex May 2014 #11

No one had mentioned her in YEARS, why did she come back? NightWatcher May 2014 #12

I think she wants to have a life. Beyoncé just wrote a new song that contains a stevenleser May 2014 #13

About the song you mentioned... Waiting For Everyman May 2014 #32

It's even more of a cheap shot because she is friends with the Obama's.... KoKo May 2014 #35

Because you can't tell her when to speak Jemon May 2014 #19

Questioning motive and timing is not the same as telling her when to speak NightWatcher May 2014 #20

It is the way you are doing it. You do not offer any reasoning. Why is this timing suspect? What Bluenorthwest May 2014 #24

Nor is implying a motive the same thing as "Questioning motive and timing..." LanternWaste May 2014 #26

Would you like to prove that no one had mentioned her in years? Jemon May 2014 #23

That's not entirely accurate. MADem May 2014 #41

What are your examples of slut-shaming her? aikoaiko May 2014 #16

Bah. pipi_k May 2014 #18

"Slut-shaming" as it is applied to this situation is ridiculous. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #22

In relation to this question President Clinton's ethical failures are hugely important intaglio May 2014 #63

True, but the topic of an entirely different OP. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #90

Is it "slut-shaming" to say she's whoring for the media spotlight? Blue_Tires May 2014 #25

It's misogynistic and makes you look like an idiot intaglio May 2014 #64

"Whoring" YoungDemCA May 2014 #87

But an apt one... Blue_Tires May 2014 #89

No. NCTraveler May 2014 #27

How about slut-shaming Bill, for equal treatment? Common Sense Party May 2014 #29

loaded wording much? TroglodyteScholar May 2014 #30

Wow, what a stupid way to word the poll! nt Logical May 2014 #31

Sounds like a political move....by our Dem Political Ops... KoKo May 2014 #38

How do you feel about Obama's secret service agents being fired for hiring prostitutes? Whisp May 2014 #34

For starters, I don't think they should be slut shamed. When discussing military and Secret Service stevenleser May 2014 #45

The President is on the job 24/7 for the duration of his term. Whisp May 2014 #47

No, I don't buy that. stevenleser May 2014 #69

I'm not buying your goods either. But that's okay. n/t Whisp May 2014 #70

Who's "slut shaming?" I think that term's an asine one and I don't think that's what's happening. MADem May 2014 #37

There have been posts here delving into Monica's preBill sexual history Whisp May 2014 #48

How many posters are saying this stuff? Two? Three? Even five? MADem May 2014 #76

when dredging up past sexual exp. and abortions and how many mates... Whisp May 2014 #77

No, it isn't. And you know it, too. MADem May 2014 #91

not the prosecution for rape, would be more like defense of rape. Whisp May 2014 #92

Look, this conversation about "Monica" isn't happening in a vacuum. MADem May 2014 #95

I couldn't agree with you more. pacalo May 2014 #96

Fair warning though, stay away from those folks eating that chocolate-sauce covered treat! MADem May 2014 #97

I hear ya... pacalo May 2014 #98

Vita meata vegamin........schhhhhhhhhhh HIC!!!!! nt MADem May 2014 #99

No. Feral Child May 2014 #40

I don't support push polls muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #43

Why doesn't anyone place the focus on where it really belongs-it was Linda Tripp R B Garr May 2014 #50

Please no. I get where you are coming from and you are right. But no, and I'll tell you why stevenleser May 2014 #51

The President and Monica Lewinsky made mistakes and it caused many issues. hrmjustin May 2014 #56

It all seems so Biblical. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #59

How about a poll option for "I don't give a rats ass about Monica Lewinsky"? tularetom May 2014 #61

Damn Skippy.... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #62

Point of clarification: she is not and was not an air head. PeaceNikki May 2014 #93

Absolutely Dorian Gray May 2014 #74

Can you clarify what you mean by"'support"? Kaleva May 2014 #78

I don't believe in the concept of "sluts" to begin with etherealtruth May 2014 #79

Monica Who? gives a fuck Vincardog May 2014 #80

I'm sure the Repubs probably want to get everyone riled up against this incident again. Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #81

No, and frankly if May is going to be Clenis month, I need to clear my calendar. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #82

Ignore-shaming Spirochete May 2014 #85

I'm not sure what "slut-shaming" is in this instance Prophet 451 May 2014 #86

It's the language being used against her YoungDemCA May 2014 #88