Poll: Do you support the attempts to slut-shame Monica Lewinsky

[sabrina 1]

94. He didn't commit perjury. He lied in a DEPOSITION which ended up not being relevant to the case. To

commit perjury the lie has to directly affect the outcome of the case. The case was dismissed on its merits.

However, Koko is right, we were out there claiming it was all Right Wing lies not just with Lewinsky but with Paula Jones also. Aside from which most of us felt that the private lives of politicians are no one's business, and still do.

There was fallout for the moral authoritarians also when Larry Flint uncovered their own affairs.

And as Koko said, some of the legislation he signed such as Welfare Reform and Deregulation, of the media, of the Big Banks eg, might have gotten more attention if everyone wasn't so busy trying to defend him.

But with all of that, the most disappointing thing about Clinton is not his affairs, it is his close ties to the Bush Family which no longer shocks us, but after fighting Bush supporters for years on his behalf, THAT felt like a betrayal to find out that they all were buddies after all, while the little people fought it out among themselves.

That taught me never, ever to defend a politician again when they have done something, especially regarding policies, that affects the LIVES of ordinary people.

I don't care if they have affairs, so long as it doesn't affect policy. As Koko says we don't really know if all this did affect him supporting policies that were in no way Progressive Democratic policies. Otoh, his close association with the Bush family leads me to believe those were his views. But we'll never know for sure.

The bottom line is if you don't want something to haunt your political career for the rest of your life, don't do it. Monica L. did what she did, but she could not have done it had she been told to 'get lost'.

Both share the blame for the affair, one of them had the responsibility of representing the millions who voted for him. You would think the thought might have occurred to him that he was being set up, but it apparently didn't.


I defended him because even after we learned it was true, the right wingers were so vicious it made what he did look trivial by comparison. But in retrospect, it is what he signed into legislation that has had such a lasting and negative effect on this country.