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22. Well well. Excuse me, but I'm going to give a Christian prayer

Wed May 7, 2014, 05:22 PM

May 2014

"The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked: his wrath towards you burns like fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing else, but to be cast into the fire; he is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in his sight; you are ten thousand times more abominable in his eyes, than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours. You have offended him infinitely more than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince; and yet it is nothing but his hand that holds you from falling into the fire every moment"

from "Sinners In The Hand Of An Angry God", Jonathan Edwards, 1741

Imagine how that would go over at the beginning of a city council meeting.

OK, so it's part of a sermon, not a prayer, but the essentials can be reworded into a prayer -- let's see,

"Lord Jesus, help us understand that the God that holds us over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors us, and is dreadfully provoked... "

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Think the SCOTUS opening prayer ruling is no big deal? [View all] jeff47 May 2014 OP

Slavery had a long standing tradition too ... JoePhilly May 2014 #1

You're assuming this SCOTUS gives a damn about precedent. jeff47 May 2014 #4

Actually, I haven't read the dercision, but I did some research on this at one point, and JDPriestly May 2014 #10

Unfortunately I think you are right about the precedent progree May 2014 #16

I note with hope that during the Teddy Roosevelt administration, Congress selected a couple JDPriestly May 2014 #24

Maybe. I'm an atheist -- not a single congressperson (either senator or rep) is agnostic or atheist progree May 2014 #25

"...this SCOTUS doesn't give a damn about precedent..." Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #11

Oh, yeah ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #2

if it was a big enough deal for the supreme court to rule on it, it's a big deal spanone May 2014 #3

^This.^ blkmusclmachine May 2014 #13

Forward to the 19th century. progressoid May 2014 #5

^And this.^ blkmusclmachine May 2014 #14

What amendment addresses marriage in the US Constitution? sinkingfeeling May 2014 #6

The 14th. JDPriestly May 2014 #9

Here's their tie-in to marriage, from the document citied in the OP: progree May 2014 #15

Well then the next time someone starts a prayer at a public meeting that I attend RoccoR5955 May 2014 #7

That's a great idea! I've been wanting to do this in the town I live in. I can get all of my friends DesertDiamond May 2014 #20

Well well. Excuse me, but I'm going to give a Christian prayer progree May 2014 #22

Rancho Cordova, CA (a suburb of Sacramento) had a Pastafarian invocation before a council meeting. LeftyMom May 2014 #27

One delivered a prayer asking for guidance from whatever higher power one believes in or other than progree May 2014 #28

It's a big fucking deal DavidDvorkin May 2014 #8

+1,000. And, wait until SCOTUS rules in favor of Hobby Lobby. YIKES blkmusclmachine May 2014 #12

Never thought it was no big deal passiveporcupine May 2014 #17

SCOTUSblog mini-symposium on this jtuck004 May 2014 #18

Yup. Unfortunately there's no requirement that other religions be accomodated progree May 2014 #19

I think there are several things that could be challenged there. jtuck004 May 2014 #23

My dad was right about the Dominionists. They are determined to take over this country and run us. DesertDiamond May 2014 #21

YES YES YES they are.....read up on the beliefs of the 7 Mountain groups... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #26