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PeaceNikki

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67. the problem is the few people fighting against e-cigs

Wed May 7, 2014, 07:59 PM

May 2014

Are trying to discuss it with a bunch of us with real world first hand actual experience. We've been released from the chains of cigarettes and are happy, healthier, proud and feel real financial benefits from the transition.

We won't let them squash that, minimize it and we'll fight like hell to stop them from taking it from us.

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e-cigs NOT a gateway to new smokers, study finds [View all] Prophet 451 May 2014 OP

This confirms what most people familiar with the issue already knew. beevul May 2014 #1

I'm sure Prophet 451 May 2014 #3

They're heeeerrrrreeeee n/t Prophet 451 May 2014 #40

Even former smokers who have been on e cigs for a few months Warpy May 2014 #51

They're a gateway to quitting smoking. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #2

Have been for me Prophet 451 May 2014 #5

Good for you! 1000words May 2014 #16

The toughest days are when I'm writing assignments Prophet 451 May 2014 #17

I love not smoking...but I don't feel like a quitter angstlessk May 2014 #27

Nevertheless, you have quit smoking, by definition. Mariana May 2014 #78

I used to be the same way! displacedtexan May 2014 #63

Yep, day 14 without lighting up for me. notadmblnd May 2014 #11

Congratulations and continued good luck (I realize it is not really luck) etherealtruth May 2014 #59

And far superior to expensive lozenges, patches and gum, made by big pharma. tridim May 2014 #58

Yep Prophet 451 May 2014 #74

The study doesn't seem to answer whether those who do morningfog May 2014 #4

Given the miniscule number who start with e-cigs Prophet 451 May 2014 #7

Not as of yet, and that is a good thing. morningfog May 2014 #13

I think it will Prophet 451 May 2014 #14

Do you expect that number to stay minuscule? jmowreader May 2014 #96

Yes, I do Prophet 451 May 2014 #97

I have no doubt that this fuels the nicotine addiction .... etherealtruth May 2014 #62

DU experts disagree 1000words May 2014 #6

I'll go with the actual study Prophet 451 May 2014 #8

you mean singular, and in air quotes... "expert" PeaceNikki May 2014 #12

haha tammywammy May 2014 #20

Well that settles it! LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #66

it's true PeaceNikki May 2014 #9

My SO is doing the same Prophet 451 May 2014 #10

Actually the cdc disagrees nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki May 2014 #18

The CDC found that 76.3 percent of teens who used them were also smokers LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #19

also missing is data on how many of those converted to tobacco PeaceNikki May 2014 #21

Those are some very odd points to leave out LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #23

It was one of those wretchedly bad, cheap "studies" done by some Warpy May 2014 #54

The point is that research is not agreeing nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #26

the data on the link you provided is not related to gateway effect in any way, shape, fashion or for PeaceNikki May 2014 #28

No, I think your point was that the research had been negative, LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #29

Whatever, I gave you link and all nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #31

e cigs have helped at least 10 people including me demtenjeep May 2014 #56

the problem is the few people fighting against e-cigs PeaceNikki May 2014 #67

exactly demtenjeep May 2014 #81

But but.. zappaman May 2014 #88

haha demtenjeep May 2014 #90

congrats, btw!! be proud! PeaceNikki May 2014 #91

I am demtenjeep May 2014 #92

I remember when you posted that you were going to try it LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #99

Of course we tried to tell them but that didn't stop the FDA from setting regulations before misterhighwasted May 2014 #22

And ASH is an anti-smoking org Prophet 451 May 2014 #24

regulations are not set krawhitham May 2014 #25

Here's hoping they take the British study into consideration then. misterhighwasted May 2014 #30

Doesn't surprise me Prophet 451 May 2014 #44

That doesn't explain new teen users. Also, the refillable kinds can produce more carcinogens. pnwmom May 2014 #32

That's because there AREN'T ANY Prophet 451 May 2014 #34

But we know studies have shown that's not true in the US. And part of the problem pnwmom May 2014 #37

No, it's not Prophet 451 May 2014 #39

Here. This is about American teens, not teens in England. pnwmom May 2014 #46

the last four paragraphs are interesting PeaceNikki May 2014 #48

And then there is this. pnwmom May 2014 #49

OK, but that's a story with theories, not a study. PeaceNikki May 2014 #55

It's a gateway if you get addicted to nicotine. Even worse if you don't realize pnwmom May 2014 #65

you don't understand at all. the customer is choosing nicotine level. PeaceNikki May 2014 #68

You don't understand at all. The teen "customer" is often a kid who shares pnwmom May 2014 #69

They will never stop looking for that "gotcha" moment. Hard to admit they were wrong misterhighwasted May 2014 #41

Cognitive dissonance is powerful stuff Prophet 451 May 2014 #47

"heats with such intencity' It is a fricking battery...how much intencity can a battery produce? angstlessk May 2014 #36

Link to the people who have died from formaldehyde poisoning LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #52

I hope you aren't holding your breath! zappaman May 2014 #89

No, as a matter of fact I'm inhaling cinnamon vapor LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #93

How many congressional hearings until we decided cigarettes were dangerous? angstlessk May 2014 #33

Less money in it Prophet 451 May 2014 #35

Agree...it is the tobacco lobby angstlessk May 2014 #38

exactly. well said. PeaceNikki May 2014 #42

I'm gradually going down Prophet 451 May 2014 #43

I went from 18 to 11 pretty easily. PeaceNikki May 2014 #45

My SO is on the 0% ones Prophet 451 May 2014 #50

yes thats how I had to do it also. I smoked tobacco for 40, YES 40 years of my life. misterhighwasted May 2014 #70

congrats to you! be proud and sing it from the mountaintop! PeaceNikki May 2014 #71

Beautifully stated. Bravo to you for hitting the nail on the head. misterhighwasted May 2014 #73

Bravo! Prophet 451 May 2014 #76

congrats to you! be proud and sing it from the mountaintop! PeaceNikki May 2014 #79

"huffing flavored steam" That's beautiful. misterhighwasted May 2014 #82

people in the higher levels of the tobacco companies energumen May 2014 #94

True. ecigs have evolved due in part to the remarkably creative minds of their misterhighwasted May 2014 #57

sing it. PeaceNikki May 2014 #60

LOL Thank You PeaceNikki. Oh ya, guess what else..My voice is clearer..I can sing again too!! misterhighwasted May 2014 #75

congrats!! be proud! PeaceNikki May 2014 #77

I support indie vape shops for the same reason I support indie book stores Prophet 451 May 2014 #64

I wish eCigs were around when I started. tridim May 2014 #53

I don't know if I would have done Prophet 451 May 2014 #61

My story exactly. Yes it took a few tries & failures misterhighwasted May 2014 #72

It took a few tries to find a decent tobacco flavour Prophet 451 May 2014 #80

Interesting. I refused to vape any fruity flavor in the beginning. Only tobacco flavor juices, misterhighwasted May 2014 #85

That's something I love Prophet 451 May 2014 #87

I quit smoking with my vape pen. Fuck the tobacco companies. Autumn May 2014 #83

They have been for me Prophet 451 May 2014 #84

I tried the disposables, they didn't work. I bought my e cig and 3 bottles of juice Autumn May 2014 #86

I went from 36mgs to 0mgs in seven months Oilwellian May 2014 #95

Wow, that's incredible Prophet 451 May 2014 #98