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JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
81. We have too many knees jerking in this nation
Thu May 8, 2014, 01:47 AM
May 2014

Knee jerk support for anything is not support. It is jingoism and tribalism.

If he/she has a "D" after his/her name vote for him/her.
If it is "for the troops" vote for it.
If it is "liberal" it is good and must be supported.

Don't pay any attention to what it actually is. Don't pay any attention to what it actually does. Just salute and go with the flow based on the label which is applied to it. This bill is labeled as "for the troops" and is therefor good and holy and must be supported.

But does this bill really "support the troops" as it claims to do? No, it does not. Men and women who have been in harm's way in defense of their country are waiting for unconscionable lengths of time for health care at overburdened VA facilities. Do we help them by adding more people to those waiting lists? People who, while they have worn the uniform, have never been in harm's way? Do we help the people who have risked their lives on the field of battle by making them wait longer for the health care that they need? We do not. We do a disservice to the VA system and to the people it is trying to serve by extending eligibility to yet more people.

In the news today we hear that 60 people died while waiting for medical treatment at the VA medical facility in Phoenix. Why were they kept waiting? Because that facility is overburdened and has a long waiting list. Does this bill help our veterans by adding more people to that waiting list and making the wait times for health care even longer? Like hell it does.

As to your monetary point, yes, it does bug me that there is money for wars, and I oppose that spending as well. And I oppose that abuse and mistreatment of our military. If we actually "supported the troops" we would not send them on repeated combat tours in wars that do not serve the national interest. But spending money on wars does not justify spending money on anything else, any more than it was at one time sensible to say that we could send a man to the moon but could not build a decent mouse trap. One thing had nothing to do with the other, and one expenditure has nothing to do with any other expenditure.

Both sides sat down in December and established a budget upon which the government would operate. It was mutually agreed. Neither side objected to it, and neither side was forced to accept it. Part of that budget was how much money was agreement on how much money the VA would need to do its job. Now, just four months later, they want to spend more. How many more bills, how many more times, will they want to spend more? Where does it stop? What is a budget for if they just keep writing more checks?

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K & R Le Taz Hot May 2014 #1
Yes indeed! NYC_SKP May 2014 #2
Before I look sarisataka May 2014 #3
Yes, mine is on the list. (Portman R-OH) SamKnause May 2014 #4
Been trying to get rid AnneD May 2014 #5
In my experience, the military supports the GOP. freebrew May 2014 #44
Almost all Veterans are Republicans, same as cops. Most are so brainwashed the Dustlawyer May 2014 #79
Thanks, Grassley. Frustratedlady May 2014 #6
Grassley's military service: NONE progressoid May 2014 #20
Thanks! Figures. Quite a contrast to Harkin. eom Frustratedlady May 2014 #89
Hmmm . . . Something In Common Here . . . cer7711 May 2014 #7
I do not see the "something in common" (LOL) Laf.La.Dem. May 2014 #31
Just a guess, but could it be the letter R after all their names? Rhiannon12866 May 2014 #83
A little too generic for me to jump on board. JayhawkSD May 2014 #8
Very good point. deutsey May 2014 #15
You REALLY have to wonder about something rejected by all those Republicans?? WinkyDink May 2014 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author nikto May 2014 #76
R#9 & K for, the same, tired list of Rethugs. Here's what the bill was about: UTUSN May 2014 #9
Kirk, Grassley, Toomey and especially Johnson Firebrand Gary May 2014 #10
Only in the US does 41 beat 59 mikeysnot May 2014 #11
Wasn't this in February ? OP says just. N/T karadax May 2014 #12
That's the problem with a graphic that says "this week" and no date jberryhill May 2014 #22
Bill #s would be nice too. karadax May 2014 #26
I do too. joeglow3 May 2014 #53
S.1982 karadax May 2014 #64
Shame? Cartoonist May 2014 #13
From my understanding it was two things that caused R's to vote no. karadax May 2014 #21
Obfuscation Cartoonist May 2014 #25
Nope sakabatou May 2014 #14
According to this link, this was in February.. Stuart G May 2014 #16
Who knows jberryhill May 2014 #23
the R folk shed tears of love over the military oldandhappy May 2014 #17
BASTARDS! AsahinaKimi May 2014 #18
I was surprised the president didn't stomp on Ed Henry last week Doctor_J May 2014 #19
Reposting on FB!! K&R! hue May 2014 #24
Billboards nationwide! SoapBox May 2014 #27
McCain???? Shame!!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 May 2014 #28
Well, thats easy 90-percent May 2014 #29
Look like: El Shaman May 2014 #30
K&R n/t Feral Child May 2014 #32
Republicans...we support the troops...pathetic SummerSnow May 2014 #33
Wow, McCain..the so called model soldier..the veteran.. SummerSnow May 2014 #34
I've always held out hope... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #37
party loyalty first is the GOP SummerSnow May 2014 #67
It is now, I suppose... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #69
Im really surprised at him. It would be interesting to know his reasons SummerSnow May 2014 #70
My bi-polar Wisconsin Senate Delegation Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #35
LOL! Enthusiast May 2014 #47
And now, they want to get rid of General Shinseki. Hekate May 2014 #36
Sure enough, Tool-me is on the list! Aldo Leopold May 2014 #38
Susan Collins shows how moderate she really is jopacaco May 2014 #39
My Retired Marine Neighbor Wellstone ruled May 2014 #40
Both of mine, inhofe and coburn madokie May 2014 #41
The Costs of Care for Veterans is going up . . FairWinds May 2014 #42
Bastardi!!!!! MADem May 2014 #43
Some of this makes very little sense. JayhawkSD May 2014 #45
But as a Vet, on principle... nikto May 2014 #77
We have too many knees jerking in this nation JayhawkSD May 2014 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author santamargarita May 2014 #46
CHICKENhawks Enthusiast May 2014 #48
Support the troops by screwing them IronLionZion May 2014 #49
yet many of these same senators will get re-elected....stupid nation spanone May 2014 #50
All (R-**) Martin Eden May 2014 #51
A kick JustAnotherGen May 2014 #52
John McCain jaysunb May 2014 #54
I clean house for a man 78 years old and has carried shrapnel in his back for the last 40+ years notadmblnd May 2014 #55
We should clean house this year at the polls and get rid of these unpatriotic Republican azzholes!! Major Hogwash May 2014 #63
All Republicans! Stainless May 2014 #56
Any DINO's in there?!! Wouldn't surprise me AT ALL. "Bi-partisanship," y'know! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #57
They didnt need their DINO's this time so the DINO's voted with the Democrats most likely. rhett o rick May 2014 #65
Surprisingly Enough, Dean Heller's Name Is Not There Leith May 2014 #58
any comment from the american legion JI7 May 2014 #59
No money for Vets or the Unemployed, but how about more Millionaire tax cuts? whathehell May 2014 #60
Et tu, McCain? NastyRiffraff May 2014 #61
That's YOU, Susan Collins... MarianJack May 2014 #62
KICK! Cha May 2014 #68
you know, I am not even surprised to see insane mccain's name on that list. niyad May 2014 #71
I hate Mark Kirk.... Stellar May 2014 #72
The Democrats on that list should be especially ashamed for being such scumbags! nikto May 2014 #73
GOP Hates Vets nikto May 2014 #74
John frikkin' McCain TOO?! OMG nikto May 2014 #75
GOP does hate Vets quarbis May 2014 #78
Both of mine. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #80
Sad to say both of mine did. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #82
and now rtracey May 2014 #84
kick....veterans are pawns in republican games...nothing more. props. spanone May 2014 #85
What was the bill number? jpak May 2014 #86
What do unborn babies and solders have in common? Sam1 May 2014 #87
This happened February 27 Generic Other May 2014 #88
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