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Puzzledtraveller

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55. I agree

Reply to DanTex (Original post)

Thu May 8, 2014, 01:19 PM

May 2014

Bill Clinton was as much in the middle as you can get IMO.

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Obama is well to the left of Bill Clinton. [View all] DanTex May 2014 OP

I don't see the relevance at this point. djean111 May 2014 #1

+1. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #2

Well, it's at least as relevant as the daily deluge of Obama-bashing OPs. DanTex May 2014 #5

I think you are confusing policy-bashing with Obama-bashing. djean111 May 2014 #7

Call it what you will, it is still equally relevant. DanTex May 2014 #9

I think the point is, people around here praise Clinton while they shit on Obama krawhitham May 2014 #8

Only some people. djean111 May 2014 #12

Another point: yes, there was a time when the party being run by Third-Wayers was a big concern. DanTex May 2014 #20

"I think the point is, people around here praise Clinton while they shit on Obama" NCTraveler May 2014 #74

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba May 2014 #22

Obama ain't running. Iggo May 2014 #3

He is the president, however: for two and a half more years frazzled May 2014 #6

Does he need a fan club cheering section or something? djean111 May 2014 #10

Stating that he is the current US President is being a "fan"? frazzled May 2014 #47

What's to talk about, except policy? djean111 May 2014 #48

The OP was precisely about policy /nt frazzled May 2014 #52

Where is the TPP on that list? djean111 May 2014 #64

The OP lists only policies that were accomplished frazzled May 2014 #69

No, I'm not like a Republican. Iggo May 2014 #23

Of course Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #4

If you want, call it a wash on "free trade", even though it's much more complicated then that. DanTex May 2014 #14

Call it a wash on "Free Trade"? bvar22 May 2014 #40

Really? Comparing an obscure deal with South Korea to NAFTA? DanTex May 2014 #53

It's not obscure. ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #75

Compared to NAFTA, yes, it is. DanTex May 2014 #86

For what it's worth, I agree that Obama is to the left of Bill Clinton. dawg May 2014 #11

Plus a million. Better than the other guy, that's about it. djean111 May 2014 #13

Picking specific policies is always a pointless excercise Prophet 451 May 2014 #15

That's a fair point, but I don't know a better approach. DanTex May 2014 #17

Extraordinary Rendition and Bill Clinton: Whisp May 2014 #18

They just don't get it VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #16

That "revised" political triangle seems to emphasize social issues more than others... cascadiance May 2014 #19

it HAS the Republican side on it....and I included Romney and Bush....as proof VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #21

I said it doesn't measure AUTHORITARIANISM... cascadiance May 2014 #25

then make your own graph... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #27

The authoritarian/libertarian thing was a push poll designed to convert people to libertarianism. DanTex May 2014 #32

Exactly!!! Dan VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #36

Actually that political graph BlindTiresias May 2014 #82

Well, let's see. You can vote for Bush Policies, ie, Bail out the Crooked Banks, Support all of sabrina 1 May 2014 #26

Third Way as YOU call it is not a traditional construct VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #30

No, the Third Way was invented a couple of decades ago to infiltrate Right Wing policies sabrina 1 May 2014 #39

and who cares about it other than you all? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #42

"you all"? grasswire May 2014 #85

people on this thread who agree with you perhaps? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #101

Why all of "them" that are out to get him/her of course Dragonfli May 2014 #103

No one on this thread agreed with him or her? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #113

Lol, you wish I was the only one who cared about the Dem Party being infiltrated by sabrina 1 May 2014 #112

You appear to know nothing at all "about it" or the Third Way right wingers - I'll educate you: Dragonfli May 2014 #99

How much money did the bank bailout cost the taxpayers? Ikonoklast May 2014 #107

I cant make heads nor tails from those graphs. They show Sen Sanders and H. Clinton on equal rhett o rick May 2014 #24

Here's the more useful older graphs that one can really understand how it is being measured more... cascadiance May 2014 #28

there is NO data there to support those graphs... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #31

Thanks for the link! riqster May 2014 #50

welcome! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #58

On the issues BlindTiresias May 2014 #83

Of course you can't VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #33

You cant play nice with others, can you. "You lean libertarian". Grow up. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #49

When someone starts libertarian agitprop, what else is anyone to think? ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #77

I find it interesting that some here where the posters are supposed to be "politically liberal" rhett o rick May 2014 #91

Rhett, you disparage Democrats constantly.. ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #104

Rhett said "disparage liberals" not "disparage Democrats" Fumesucker May 2014 #108

Read the data... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #34

Perhaps because YOU have it all wrong to begin with... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #43

It makes you wonder why they use the phrase, "the left" as a pejorative. Marr May 2014 #81

Is that another Mr.Fish cartoon? bvar22 May 2014 #54

Well if you don't like them; make your own! cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #71

Oh really? ronnie624 May 2014 #29

How many free trade do we need? Because this administration nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #35

but much to your dismay that hasn't happened yet... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #38

Yes and according to "your" graphs, Sen Sanders and H. Clinton-Sachs agree on the economy. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #51

Obama himself said "Nixon was more liberal". ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #37

Context means everything... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #41

That's what we're discussing........ ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #44

NO....because you don't base the value on just one or two issues... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #46

How am I picking and choosing? I listed his most important accomplishments. DanTex May 2014 #56

You aren't....you just don't base your entire opinion on just one or two issues VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #60

Haha. ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #72

And that he (Obama) is a moderate republican Doctor_J May 2014 #106

I agree on the grounds that the repeal of Glass Seagel and NAFTA were so bad that many of us see jwirr May 2014 #45

I agree Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #55

Who is left of who, blah de blah de blah (good question, not making fun of OP) randys1 May 2014 #57

NO he isn't. Demeter May 2014 #59

they are essentially the same Enrique May 2014 #61

If comparing policies isn't a good way to compare, how would you do it? DanTex May 2014 #62

BS. You could easily make the argument that Clinton is to the left of Obama. Dawgs May 2014 #63

Not a very convincing one... DanTex May 2014 #66

Wrong again! Dawgs May 2014 #78

"They are both equally bad on economic policy and financial regulation" DanTex May 2014 #84

Getting closer. Dawgs May 2014 #94

Umm, what cherry picking? DanTex May 2014 #97

Nope. It's cherry-picking. Dawgs May 2014 #98

It does not matter who is president , the Fascist Corporate State will run of , by , and for the geretogo May 2014 #65

I'm pretty sure that Obama has signed more free-trade agreements than Clinton did. Nye Bevan May 2014 #67

from where i sit they are both conservative DEMS m-lekktor May 2014 #68

I had no clue Obama and Clinton were going head to head. NCTraveler May 2014 #70

Obamacare= Hillary's health plan that Bill helped create Jemon May 2014 #73

Love how the OP uses Obamacare for Obama, but not Hillarycare for Bill. Dawgs May 2014 #79

Like I said above, if we count things that don't pass... DanTex May 2014 #110

And they're both to the right of Nixon (n/t) Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #76

Obama is hardly to the left of Bush. nt Demo_Chris May 2014 #80

Most people familiar with Obama, Clinton, history, and the present,..... NCTraveler May 2014 #87

I get that a lot of people think that, but it's not factual. DanTex May 2014 #88

The op is so limited on information that it, in itself, does not make a valid arguement. NCTraveler May 2014 #90

Any list of Obama's legislative achievements has to include Obamacare. DanTex May 2014 #93

Completely unrecommended Enthusiast May 2014 #89

Well, ProSense May 2014 #92

Good post. DanTex May 2014 #111

Obama has proven to be more of a militarist and more anti-Bill-of-Rights. Vattel May 2014 #95

Big deal. I consider them both right of center. hobbit709 May 2014 #96

But Bill Clinton is left of Bill Clinton now.. otherone May 2014 #100

Congress passed most of those things vi5 May 2014 #102

No Doctor_J May 2014 #105

Absolute nonsense AgingAmerican May 2014 #109