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In reply to the discussion: Obama is well to the left of Bill Clinton. [View all]Dawgs
(14,755 posts)- They are both equally bad on economic policy and financial regulation.
- Obama is pro-drone, pro-war and authorized assassination of an American citizen. He thinks the Afghanistan war was worth it. Hardly a draw.
- Almost no one on the left has said NAFTA is worse. Many have said TPP is 'NAFTA on steroids'. Google 'NAFTA worse than TPP' and see what I mean.
- Whether Obamacare was a good idea or not is irrelevant to your argument. It was the Republican alternative to Clinton's proposal. And, you can't say Obama's legislation is more progressive just because his proposals passed and Clinton's didn't. That's not fair at all. Clinton tried and was unable to pass his own healthcare reform. Obamacare could have easily not passed if Democrats didn't have the majorities like they did. So, you really can't use Obamacare against Clinton and for Obama, since the only knock for Clinton is that his didn't pass and Obama's did.
- Obama let Bush tax cuts expire because the Democrats and his base made him. Remember, he extended them once. And just claiming that Obama's policy are more progressive is really not an effective argument.
- So, you admit that Obama just did what Bush said he was going to do anyway in regards to Iraq. That's hardly taking some great progressive stand.
- The stimulus was created because of the recession. Are you suggesting that any other Democrat (like Clinton) wouldn't have done the same thing? Pretty naive if you do.