Obama is well to the left of Bill Clinton.

[DanTex]

97. Umm, what cherry picking?

I listed the main policy accomplishments of each president. That's not cherry picking. Quite the opposite.

-- Yes, both Clinton and Obama used force more than you would want them to. They both believed in humanitarian intervention. On foreign policy they are pretty similar.

-- Yes, Krugman literally said "No Big Deal". Of course, TPP hasn't passed yet, and the details are unknown.

-- I included Obamacare in the OP because it would be absurd to list Obama's major accomplishments while omitting it. Like I said, if we're giving credit for things that didn't pass, then health care is a draw, but then there's a huge list of other progressive policies that Obama gets credit for -- DREAM act, universal pre-K, etc.

What you keep ignoring is that Clinton passed an actual Republican plan -- a plan that Republicans actively supported, as opposed to a plan that shared some common elements with previous Republican ideas, but which Republicans universally opposed -- on welfare reform. And the bill that Clinton passed actually reduced the safety net, unlike Obama's "Republican" plan which expanded it more than anything in the last 40-50 years.

--No, sorry. He raised tax cuts on the wealthy, and he gets credit for it. Your speculation about his motives is meaningless.

--Hard or not, he got out if Iraq. He gets credit for what he did.

--He still gets credit for preventing a second great depression and saving the auto industry.

Again, you ignore the fact that Clinton actually passed major conservative legislation -- welfare reform and financial deregulation. This isn't cherry-picking, those are major parts of his legacy. Obama hasn't. There is good reason for considering Clinton to be a centrist/conservative Democrat. But not Obama.

What's happening here is that you are just trying to make excuses as to why Obama shouldn't get credit for all of the good things he did. At some point, you need to just quit with the excuses, and recognize that, yes, Obama has pushed through a lot of progressive changes.