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frazzled

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2. "What they say ..."

Thu May 8, 2014, 03:47 PM

May 2014

These sorts of data sets seem pretty meaningless to me when it comes to an issue such as race. (If this were about sex or eating habits or similar topics, I'd say the same thing.) What people say about their racial attitudes and what they actually do (or support) may be miles apart. I just don't believe most people want to admit they have racist attitudes; they may not even believe they have racist attitudes. Which at least means they know right from wrong. But self-reporting on such sensitive matters is probably not very reliable. Remember, Mr. Stirling is still protesting that he is not racist.

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Nate Silver: Are White Republicans More Racist Than White Democrats? [View all] Jemon May 2014 OP

So yes. It's nice to see the trends going down over the years. arcane1 May 2014 #1

"What they say ..." frazzled May 2014 #2

Agree. How many are racists are going to truthfully answer.. Dawgs May 2014 #5

between 10 and 50% depending on year and which question..... which means it must be much more than bettyellen May 2014 #6

The irony to remember though, is that many will indeed answer thusly... LooseWilly May 2014 #22

Interesting, but all declared rather than revealed, and hence more questionable. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #3

this evidence demonstrates that racism persists Supersedeas May 2014 #13

But only provides a lower bound on how much. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #38

So yes, but not as much as we'd like to think. Scuba May 2014 #4

Water is also wet Gothmog May 2014 #7

Interesting BKH70041 May 2014 #8

No they aren't dsc May 2014 #9

In other words, 93% of Republicans and 97% of Democrats would vote for a black president Jemon May 2014 #10

yeah that is a huge difference dsc May 2014 #11

That's spin Jemon May 2014 #12

Shhhhhhhh!!!! BKH70041 May 2014 #14

Curious LooseWilly May 2014 #23

There's nothing I'd like to do more. BKH70041 May 2014 #24

Hehe... you're on a discussion board and afraid to discuss? LooseWilly May 2014 #31

Cautious BKH70041 May 2014 #34

Your dizzyingly agile intellect astounds. Which doesn't impress. LooseWilly May 2014 #40

I'm sorry, but although I respect Nate Silver.....I'm afraid he missed the mark on this one. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #15

many states still outlawed it until 1967 fishwax May 2014 #18

There's some truth to that. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #19

legally, yes -- as to the question of close family members fishwax May 2014 #20

And you judge that based on what? LooseWilly May 2014 #25

You kinda misread what I stated; I was referring to the laws still in place. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #26

"Blackwashing" ?? gollygee May 2014 #30

The OP was discussing issues of opinions, not legal status. If you want to change the context... LooseWilly May 2014 #35

Okay, I see. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #36

No offense taken LooseWilly May 2014 #41

How old are you? gollygee May 2014 #27

These graphs show something else also................. wandy May 2014 #16

there's only percentage points of a difference Supersedeas May 2014 #17

For things down in the lunatic fringe of statistics 20%, but notice once $$ enters the dicussion Johonny May 2014 #21

Not much of a big difference that i can see. bravenak May 2014 #28

Did this thread die a quick death or what??! I am DYING laughing Number23 May 2014 #46

Is he gone for real? bravenak May 2014 #47

I will shout: BS! ananda May 2014 #29

The time series data here is misleading Hippo_Tron May 2014 #32

Some truth to that, btw. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #37

I think that we would need to see more data before you can reach that conclusion Supersedeas May 2014 #42

Not too much, I guess. nt ZombieHorde May 2014 #33

Interesting JustAnotherGen May 2014 #39

Come back soon, again!...nt SidDithers May 2014 #43

Poll results are only reliable when they confirm what one wants to believe. n/t hughee99 May 2014 #44

In my self-imposed DU hiatus I somehow missed this. I'm shocked this went over like a lead balloon Number23 May 2014 #45