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UTUSN

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25. No, because it's not about "embarrassing the administration." It's about violating:

Reply to Armstead (Original post)

Fri May 9, 2014, 01:31 PM

May 2014

1) terms of employment.

2) procedures for lodging whistleblowing.

3) methods of "mental reservations" in taking oaths of service. Instead of exhausting the whistleblowing, then quitting the job and going in front of the media and pursuing maximum publicity THAT way.

4) basic levels of self-sacrificing idealism instead of personality-grandstanding.

5) not to mention, giving info to friendly/unfriendly countries. And absconding. And profiteering, both materially and egoistically.

Short answer: MADDOW/MOYERS would NOT have done what SNOWDEN-GREENWALD did, not THAT way.

Haha, when *I* just said, "it's NOT ABOUT..." I sound like the SNOW-WALD-ites who constantly say, "It's NOT ABOUT (them personally)."

And now: Let the lambasting proceed!1

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Suppose Rachael Maddow or Moyers or other left hero had done what Greenwald and Snowden did? [View all] Armstead May 2014 OP

Suppose pigs were able to fly? MohRokTah May 2014 #1

Yes Capt. Obvious May 2014 #2

You mean if they leaked lots of info unrelated to Domestic Surveillance? JoePhilly May 2014 #3

Greenwald was under the bus long before that Armstead May 2014 #5

Yep, and for good reason... Spazito May 2014 #10

The question is not about whether they are sterling characters Armstead May 2014 #12

Yes, actually, it is... Spazito May 2014 #14

Doesn't answer my question ... which specific hypothetical action ... JoePhilly May 2014 #18

Instantly whatchamacallit May 2014 #4

Your comment is number 4 leftynyc May 2014 #6

My usage is fine whatchamacallit May 2014 #28

LOL - since you're obviously leftynyc May 2014 #29

The OP was asking a hypothetical question about what people might do in general whatchamacallit May 2014 #30

You mean steal? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #7

I don't think either would be as indiscriminate with the data releases as Greenden. Adrahil May 2014 #8

Suppose they both did sincerely believe that foreign intelligence has a dark side? Armstead May 2014 #13

Then yeah, I'd call them out on that. NT Adrahil May 2014 #23

I doubt seriously that they'd have leaked information about our international spying. pnwmom May 2014 #9

Those people you mention are smart. There's the difference. randome May 2014 #11

These are not left heroes. JackRiddler May 2014 #15

yes. were you on DU when Jon stewart criticized Obama for something La Lioness Priyanka May 2014 #16

I remember. 840high May 2014 #19

It wouldn't matter to the "professional" thought police IAMWE May 2014 #17

Absolutely nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #20

You Mean After They Were Awarded... WillyT May 2014 #21

You mean be a traitor? Yeah, still would've called them stupid. STupid is what stupid does uponit7771 May 2014 #22

Does anyone recall Rachel's "Journalism is not terrorism" editorial comment? bullwinkle428 May 2014 #24

they acted way worse with the "don't touch my junk guy" MisterP May 2014 #27

No, because it's not about "embarrassing the administration." It's about violating: UTUSN May 2014 #25

Well, ProSense May 2014 #26