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2naSalit

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58. Indeed

Fri May 9, 2014, 01:36 PM

May 2014

that's their intent. For some of us it became clear over a decade ago... but we were just lowly CT enthusiasts then.

And I say that as I sit here losing money I could be making waiting for clearance to work at a mediocre level (pay-wise) job but it seems that my student loan problem will keep me from ever having a ob that will afford me the luxury of paying it back. Which is how it became a problem in the first place... timing (9/11) happened 30 days after the hood was wrapped around my neck, been financially f*cked ever since, no matter how hard I try to climb out of the hole for which I can no longer see the rim. Catch22 clearly designed for those of us who sought to be a part of our democracy in the middle class. Now it looks like poverty will be my life-long legacy.

We are being oppressed, held down with a boot on our necks, until we either suffocate or just give it up and blow our own brains out, and if that doesn't work there's pollution for those who prefer a slow, painful demise (won't go quietly).

Apparently that is the choice we are offered.

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The REAL ASSHOLES are the traitors who lied America into war and still walk free. [View all] Octafish May 2014 OP

Didn't Greenwald support the Iraq War? baldguy May 2014 #1

Didn't Greenwald call for prosecuting Bush and Cheney? Octafish May 2014 #5

Again, only after he figured out who was signing his paycheck. baldguy May 2014 #11

Just curious - are you referring to Greenwald or Obama? Scuba May 2014 #22

Are you flirting with Teabaggerism by insinuationg *Obama* is an asshole? baldguy May 2014 #98

pathetic (nt) malokvale77 May 2014 #106

Greenwald sycophants certainly are. baldguy May 2014 #108

The Daily Banter as a sorce? Really and pfft. pam4water May 2014 #120

There are a few H2O Man May 2014 #148

As did H. Clinton-Sachs. Which was more significant? nm rhett o rick May 2014 #16

Huh? What Europeans were signing his paycheck in 2006? Luminous Animal May 2014 #32

Didn't Greenwald support the Iraq War? bvar22 May 2014 #59

Unlike Hillary Clinton and John Kerry... JackRiddler May 2014 #69

How do you feel about LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin speech? cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #70

Didn't Hillary support the Iraq War? Kudos to Greewald for uncovering the lies based on sabrina 1 May 2014 #112

Amen!!! 2naSalit May 2014 #2

Repeat Offenders: Why the Big Money goes into the Big Lie Octafish May 2014 #7

^^^this^^^ L0oniX May 2014 #18

Needs to be an OP. Thanks Octafish. Scuba May 2014 #24

Indeed 2naSalit May 2014 #58

Pluuuuuus one! Enthusiast May 2014 #74

US Chamber of Commerce is a confederation of assholes. JEB May 2014 #87

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #95

quite a few out there reddread May 2014 #3

''Behold our tough, intrepid, adversarial press corps.'' Octafish May 2014 #9

Greenwald's tweet was also an asshole move. NuclearDem May 2014 #4

Speaking of resources for imperialists and capitalists: Penny Pritzker Octafish May 2014 #13

Yes...."Pennies from Heaven"..indeed. KoKo May 2014 #15

+1 L0oniX May 2014 #17

I know enough to reflexively recoil at anything associated with Wall Street. NuclearDem May 2014 #21

I didn't. Thanks again, Octafish. Scuba May 2014 #26

Oh you are just trying to confuse the issue. "Hate Greenwald, hate Greenwald." rhett o rick May 2014 #28

+1! Enthusiast May 2014 #75

Wow. No, I did not know this. Jackpine Radical May 2014 #103

Maybe taking his tweet out of context, misinterpreting it, and using it as a tool for hate and rhett o rick May 2014 #19

No, Greenwald certainly isn't a problem. NuclearDem May 2014 #25

It wasnt an asshole move if you understand what he was saying. But hatred can cloud judgement. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #31

Exactly! bvar22 May 2014 #60

I think there is a fear of becoming irrelevant. They are like Neville Chamberlain. rhett o rick May 2014 #62

Yes...like Neville Chamberlain...Ostrich with Head in Sand.. KoKo May 2014 #96

"I agree 100% with Greenwald's Tweet." Me too. Enthusiast May 2014 #79

i think Greenwald is not a problem but a solution zeemike May 2014 #33

The problem is that there are those that refuse to support anyone that speaks out to rhett o rick May 2014 #37

And that is well known to psychiatry. zeemike May 2014 #40

They are very good at infiltration. Octafish May 2014 #48

Thanks for the link...that is one I missed. zeemike May 2014 #51

Are you familiar with the book, "The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer? rhett o rick May 2014 #53

No I am not...and thanks for the link zeemike May 2014 #55

I think you are referring to "They Thought They Were Free" by Milton Mayer. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #63

No actually I was thinking of this zeemike May 2014 #73

I am interested. I see Amazon* sells used copies. Current working my way thru Michael Ruppert's, rhett o rick May 2014 #84

It's like the authors were reading DU : GD bobduca May 2014 #133

In the most part IMO it's how children are raised in good ole USofA. rhett o rick May 2014 #136

+1! Enthusiast May 2014 #77

What was the tweet, I haven't kept up on this newthinking May 2014 #46

The guy made the mistake of stating an opinion about the idiocy of war. Octafish May 2014 #66

Indeed, and those assholes appear to be above the law Dragonfli May 2014 #6

Thank you for spelling it out so well, Dragonfli: The government has become most un-democratic. Octafish May 2014 #41

I remember when this site used to oppose war for money. I also had the pleasure Dragonfli May 2014 #83

"I no longer consider this a progressive site, as most of the newbies are anything but" carolinayellowdog May 2014 #126

By design bobduca May 2014 #134

Yeah. nilesobek May 2014 #116

USA,USA father founding May 2014 #8

United States of Aspens Octafish May 2014 #38

Was that a special code? Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #123

The players were connected in a way not apparent to observers on the ground. Octafish May 2014 #145

Something to do with National security conference in Aspen? Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #164

If you say so HangOnKids May 2014 #44

Since you mentioned it malokvale77 May 2014 #109

Well said my friend Ichingcarpenter May 2014 #10

The best slave doesn't know he is one. Octafish May 2014 #57

I remember that book! Read it shortly after it came out. RufusTFirefly May 2014 #104

You mad bro? MohRokTah May 2014 #12

You better believe it, Dude. Octafish May 2014 #14

LOL!!!!! HangOnKids May 2014 #45

You noticed that too? Puglover May 2014 #135

Pretzels are a great energy food. QC May 2014 #149

Our oligarch overlords would love us to fight about Greenwald instead of addressing the bigger rhett o rick May 2014 #20

This entire thread is about Glenn Greenwald. MohRokTah May 2014 #27

That's exactly my point. Why spend so much time hating Greenwald? nm rhett o rick May 2014 #29

BEcause an asshole gets a lot of thread space here? MohRokTah May 2014 #30

The point of the OP is that in the scope of things, if he is an asshole, he is way down rhett o rick May 2014 #34

I didn't get that from the OP. MohRokTah May 2014 #35

Ah yes of course. It's so very important to keep the spotlight on him and away from other issues rhett o rick May 2014 #54

No No we have to focus on Bengazi stupid.. that's what the Repugs want the focus on, right? YOHABLO May 2014 #99

Good point. The Repugs want us to focus on Bengazi while the Blue Dogs want us to focus rhett o rick May 2014 #137

LOL LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #71

Yeah, I noticed you have a tendency to see things that aren't there and put Dragonfli May 2014 #88

Really. Let's try an exercise. Pholus May 2014 #102

A lack of answer is also illuminating. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #138

Indeed. Sometimes it is better to remain silent, Pholus May 2014 #151

I think you don't know the poster of the OP (nt) malokvale77 May 2014 #113

Are you the Owner of this Site..? What gives YOU the right to decide what gets posted KoKo May 2014 #97

"BEcause an asshole gets a lot of thread space here?" malokvale77 May 2014 #118

If lies were not being told about Greenwald there would still be Greenwald threads on Democratic sabrina 1 May 2014 #114

I dont think the Greenwald haters recognize that they are not liberals. Just sayin. rhett o rick May 2014 #152

Could be. Maybe there needs to be a declaration from the Dem Party as to who actually sabrina 1 May 2014 #153

Ding ding ding Jesus Malverde May 2014 #23

It's weird to see DUers cutting down the cornerstone of Democracy - the Free Press. Octafish May 2014 #61

"It's weird to see DUers cutting down the cornerstone of Democracy - the Free Press." malokvale77 May 2014 #115

I was told the other day on DU that I have been misinterpreting the 4th Amendment, and I presume sabrina 1 May 2014 #154

All this energy on messengers and each other. randys1 May 2014 #36

Greenwald: 4 points about the 1971 FBI break-in Octafish May 2014 #49

Greenwald aside smallcat88 May 2014 #39

Edward Snowden and the Real Issues Octafish May 2014 #68

Thanks for the link smallcat88 May 2014 #93

And they are still looking for more wars malaise May 2014 #42

^^^ THIS! ^^^ SomeGuyInEagan May 2014 #56

Lunch with the Chairman Octafish May 2014 #80

I wish that those c/o Greenwald were as upset at what he and Snowden exposed. Dustlawyer May 2014 #43

It could lead one to believe that they actually approve of those, which is why they focus on GG & ES Electric Monk May 2014 #67

More cats vs. Know your BFEE Octafish May 2014 #82

Thank you, that is the kinds of stuff I am talking about! Dustlawyer May 2014 #147

K&R n/t whatchamacallit May 2014 #47

WHIG (White House Iraq Group) made phony case for Iraq War Octafish May 2014 #140

Greenwald isn't part of the club...he reports on it. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #50

Like Carter, who apparently isn't welcome in the club neither... Pholus May 2014 #101

I'll take Carter anyday malokvale77 May 2014 #117

Believe It Or Not Jimmy Carter Is The Most Threatened Ex-President in US History Octafish May 2014 #156

I did not know this malokvale77 May 2014 #166

Quite a club it is... Octafish May 2014 #141

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2014 #52

Vietnam and Iraq Wars Started by Same People Octafish May 2014 #142

K & R Liberal_Dog May 2014 #64

What kind of a person would want a war? Octafish May 2014 #143

Kick to find later so I can figure out WTF happened hootinholler May 2014 #65

More smear job. Octafish May 2014 #146

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2014 #72

I posted a reply here over an hour ago but it never showed up. lpbk2713 May 2014 #76

I had a missing post too. Enthusiast May 2014 #78

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #81

Fuck 'em all! AAO May 2014 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #86

Speaking of corporate mcpravda Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #89

Television, the Drug of a Nation, Breeding Ignorance and Feeding Radiation. Octafish May 2014 #162

Shining lights on sphincters Fairgo May 2014 #90

Nonsense. Perception is reality. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #91

K&R. marmar May 2014 #111

It's time to open it all up again. grasswire May 2014 #92

But the Reporters are just so EASY to Discount and not the Policy Makers KoKo May 2014 #94

Always happy to K&R an Octafish thread n/t Oilwellian May 2014 #100

Me too. Cleita May 2014 #105

Don't be discouraged. Puglover May 2014 #144

second that. nt navarth May 2014 #107

K&R...For the Assholes Armstead May 2014 #110

kick scarletwoman May 2014 #119

Kick again - for the REAL assholes. scarletwoman May 2014 #121

Yes ... slipslidingaway May 2014 #122

The bill to bail out the banks was passed by a Democratic majority after Obama ... slipslidingaway May 2014 #124

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #125

Excellent post! Enthusiast May 2014 #127

Is ASSHOLE some euphemism for CRIMINAL? Just asking. The language seems a bit soft to me. ancianita May 2014 #128

Well, given that we decided not to prosecute any of the OP "Assholes" Pholus May 2014 #129

I think Blankfein said that you can't prosecute stupidity, in so many words. Proving intent is THE ancianita May 2014 #130

Huh. I was raised on "Ignorance is no defense" and for the "unwashed masses" that is true... Pholus May 2014 #132

Several DUers routinely apply it to journalists and whistleblowers, rather than to criminals. Octafish May 2014 #155

Amazing that we need this review of real criminal history, but we do, Octafish... MrMickeysMom May 2014 #161

Thank you! DU lesson learned. ancianita May 2014 #163

Couldn't agree more� Loved this response tweet to asshole Wonkette... MrMickeysMom May 2014 #131

K & R GoneFishin May 2014 #139

kick XRubicon May 2014 #150

the REAL ASSHOLES are the torturers. those who put torture into american's mainstream spanone May 2014 #157

American Torturers are REAL ASSHOLES. Octafish May 2014 #160

Great thread. Big Kick!! (eom) CanSocDem May 2014 #158

Don't forget the REAL ASSHOLES... 99Forever May 2014 #159

K & R for some real DU education! ancianita May 2014 #165

Preach it!!!! Initech May 2014 #167