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WillyT

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64. I Hear Ya... And I May Post About This Someday... But A Hint...

Fri May 9, 2014, 09:46 PM

May 2014

I was placed on a jury for a murder trial. The only time I got picked for a jury.

There were two defendants, it was suggested that it might be gang related, the defendants were minorities...

And when we the jury were given the case... the "foreman" looked at his watch, as did almost everybody else... And instead of asking, "All in favor of taking an initial secret vote to find out where we all stand at this point..."

He said out loud, "All those that think they are guilty of Murder 1, raise your hands..."

MINE... WAS THE ONLY HAND TO STAY UN-RAISED.

Everybody else was ready to throw these guys in the hole, and get back to work.

It was like they were annoyed that anybody had bothered to ask for their opinions.

My view of American Justice changed that day.

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O SHIT: Cecily McMillan jurors tell judge Occupy activist should not go to jail [View all] WilliamPitt May 2014 OP

Hey Will... Did You Catch This: WillyT May 2014 #1

Leads to this pic, of Ms. McMillan, showing the bruises from where the cop grabbed her ... Scuba May 2014 #8

according to one poster in another thread, the bruise is on her chest, not her breast, niyad May 2014 #53

Thanks for keeping up on this, Will.. KoKo May 2014 #2

If she didn't know he was a cop the whole charge should have been thrown out. Dustlawyer May 2014 #32

While I am interested in this case nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #38

Here's My Link to Post I did about her and "Willy T" just posted his Post... KoKo May 2014 #3

New DU. WilliamPitt May 2014 #5

Well sometimes it does seem to be a foreign land...to those of us who've been here a long time. KoKo May 2014 #6

François Villon WilliamPitt May 2014 #7

Nice... KoKo May 2014 #12

Some of those responses are unreal. City Lights May 2014 #14

the responses in this thread are depressing, to say the least: niyad May 2014 #54

Are policemen being taught to grab women from behind catrose May 2014 #4

from the video I saw passiveporcupine May 2014 #9

I kind of lean that way aswell Niceguy1 May 2014 #28

I will never understand the verdict, and I hope the judge considers the jurors request. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #10

An outrageous miscarriage of justice. mountain grammy May 2014 #11

The spirit of Occupy activism has spread to the jury! I love it. morningfog May 2014 #13

...and the Jury still thinks she's guilty... brooklynite May 2014 #20

They're trying to keep her out of jail. Hissyspit May 2014 #23

Not disputing that, but it doesn't sound like "OCCUPY Activism" to me,,, brooklynite May 2014 #45

Sure, the next step is jury nullification, but they are recognizing and morningfog May 2014 #27

I wouldn't have voted to convcict in the first place. ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #15

They probably browbeat the jury into conviction Demeter May 2014 #16

It's disappointing that so many people (jurors) give in so easily. ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #18

The evidence, at least as presented, was pretty strong against her Nevernose May 2014 #21

She turned down a deal that would have resulted only in probation: struggle4progress May 2014 #44

So? Hissyspit May 2014 #46

So the prosecution's unlikely to pound the table and demand the stiffest possible penalty, struggle4progress May 2014 #48

So maybe she thinks she's innocent? Hissyspit May 2014 #50

As presented... backscatter712 May 2014 #47

Probably. JoeyT May 2014 #22

Thanks for the article. ohnoyoudidnt May 2014 #26

She should file charges accusing him of attempting to rape her as he was behind her grabbing her DhhD May 2014 #17

She wouldn't win that: struggle4progress May 2014 #49

Read Between the Lines: Hissyspit May 2014 #19

I believe that the jury has the right to ask the judge about prior excessive force and to see the DhhD May 2014 #24

It's pretty fucking pathetic when you have to resort to a petition ... MrMickeysMom May 2014 #25

The same jury said she was guilty. That's quite a bit of 'due process'. randome May 2014 #30

The same jury seems to have some buyer's remorse about their part in that 'due process.' Hissyspit May 2014 #31

They don't want her to receive an extended sentence. randome May 2014 #33

And you can't assume from that letter that some or all don't now think that she Hissyspit May 2014 #35

people here have been using the video evidence as proof TorchTheWitch May 2014 #36

Actually you can't tell much of shit from the video. Hissyspit May 2014 #37

what on earth are you talking about? TorchTheWitch May 2014 #39

Why cops who assaulted Occupy got away with it, Hissyspit May 2014 #40

point out where I ever said that TorchTheWitch May 2014 #58

Interesting… what a trade off... MrMickeysMom May 2014 #34

Uniform worship The Wizard May 2014 #29

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #42

It didn't help her that she never got her story straight struggle4progress May 2014 #41

I Love How You... Struggle For "Progress"... WillyT May 2014 #57

The difference between us is (I think) that I should prefer not to decide what the facts struggle4progress May 2014 #63

I Hear Ya... And I May Post About This Someday... But A Hint... WillyT May 2014 #64

Officer Testifies About Encounter With Occupy Wall Street Protester (NYT) struggle4progress May 2014 #43

Did his side of the story get preferential treatment? Hissyspit May 2014 #51

I wasn't on the jury. So I don't know the demeanor of the witnesses or other such details. struggle4progress May 2014 #62

How come this post doesn't have 200+ recs? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #52

read some of the responses here, and in the other threads, and you will understand. niyad May 2014 #56

you got a problem with the Authoritarian Underground, Manny? frylock May 2014 #59

Well... I guess not MannyGoldstein May 2014 #61

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #55

K&R /nt myrna minx May 2014 #60