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rrneck

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13. Privelage can be an incredibly subjective standard.
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:45 PM
May 2014

Where privilege is codified into law, as in Jim Crow laws, it's pretty easy to spot and deal with legislatively. When privilege is assumed but not codified into law it is a lot harder to manage. Read that last sentence again. Did you imagine a white person or a person of color making an assumption of privilege? Such assumptions are evaluations about how some not particularly well defined group feels about some other not particularly well defined group.

Racism exists in the United States. It hampers those at whom it is directed economically and culturally. We can make laws that regulate most any economic or cultural activity with a paper trail to conform to a basic standard of fairness. But those on the ground implementing those laws will regularly fall short of that standard. Some will do so maliciously, others because of ignorance or an inability to differentiate between conflicting societal forces. I don't have a solution for that problem, at least not an easy one. Eventually I think people just living in proximity with one another will be the best solution, but that takes a long time.

The greatest danger is not our lack of color blindness, but people who would exploit our differences for their own aggrandizement. Beware people telling you how you are supposed to feel about others. Especially beware people telling you how others feel about you. People like that are not your friends but rather parasites feeding on the tribalistic nature of humans.

A very good OP. Thank you.

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Very well stated. TM99 May 2014 #1
I think white, male, etc "privilege" is the EASE with which those rights are honored. ret5hd May 2014 #2
How to quantify this privilege? TM99 May 2014 #4
Do you necessarily have to quantify to acknowledge the existence??? ret5hd May 2014 #7
Yes. TM99 May 2014 #10
your definitions are off. when sociologists refer to privilege- is not county clubs, ladies night bettyellen May 2014 #3
There are quite a few critiques in academia TM99 May 2014 #6
there are quite a few critiques in academia on everything, LOL. sorry, but if you studied sociology bettyellen May 2014 #9
Laugh if you want TM99 May 2014 #11
Well, the enhanced specificity of such terms as bigotry vs racism comes in handy I think.... bettyellen May 2014 #14
I am sorry TM99 May 2014 #15
I wasn't talking about sweeping rights under the rug, try again? bettyellen May 2014 #16
first, condescending... now snark... ProdigalJunkMail May 2014 #18
And here it comes. TM99 May 2014 #20
betty was the person to whom I was speaking... ProdigalJunkMail May 2014 #22
Oops! TM99 May 2014 #25
it is very difficult on my mobile device to see ProdigalJunkMail May 2014 #27
Ha ha, He was talking about me, but I am sure you'll agree we've been having a fairly civil bettyellen May 2014 #23
go back and look at your posts... ProdigalJunkMail May 2014 #26
LOL, sorry if you can't whip us into a frenzy of hatred. Try again elsewhere maybe? bettyellen May 2014 #32
Here's what you wrote. TM99 May 2014 #19
Sorry, your interpetation threw me- but I see the typo that did it. bettyellen May 2014 #21
Not a problem. TM99 May 2014 #24
I do think you are spot on with the lack of empathy part, but not entirley with the lazy thinking bettyellen May 2014 #31
I don't disagree TM99 May 2014 #33
Yeah, the derailing thing is such a distraction here, and it would be awesome if we could get past bettyellen May 2014 #34
You are welcome. TM99 May 2014 #37
How those things are defined can lead to enormous arguments ismnotwasm May 2014 #28
Thank you for that essay you linked to. Everyone in this discussion should read it. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #35
You are welcome. TM99 May 2014 #38
Privilege is a word that has meaning. It cannot be redefined at will for convenience btrflykng9 May 2014 #36
words have more than one meaning, depending on context. always have! the rest is all bettyellen May 2014 #39
Least I don't have to check with my college professors first to know what to think n/t btrflykng9 May 2014 #40
or actually learn anything! No, you can't be forced to do either, LOL. bettyellen May 2014 #41
Rights are enforced legally, privilege is enforced culturally. NuclearDem May 2014 #5
Interesting, though somewhat academic quinnox May 2014 #8
Civil rights are for everyone, privilege is given only to select people or groups Major Nikon May 2014 #12
nice and concise Supersedeas May 2014 #45
Privelage can be an incredibly subjective standard. rrneck May 2014 #13
"Privilege" makes sense in discussing point of view. DirkGently May 2014 #17
Privilege and "privileges" are two entirely different things. Zenlitened May 2014 #29
I disagree ismnotwasm May 2014 #30
fwiw - WfE is a feminist woman RainDog May 2014 #42
There's just as much reason to assume it's because of your gender as race in that scenario Major Nikon May 2014 #44
Poster Boy for Privilege Dirty Socialist May 2014 #43
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