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JoePhilly

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37. I love a lecture from one of DU's high Priests of liberalsim.

Sat May 10, 2014, 05:06 PM

May 2014

Clearly you love this country way more than I do.

What I find as a common element in these outrage discussions is that the outraged rarely have any ideas on how to move forward. Unless complaining is a path forward.

Take Net Neutrality. The administration had made one proposal. That failed in court. So they made another proposal that has elements we don't like.

First question ... if the administration hates us, why did they make the original proposal? Must have been a trick, I guess. They wanted that to fail. So they could make the 2nd proposal and screw us. IS that it?

And what's your proposal? What should they be proposing given that court ruling?

DU tends to be relatively mute on that point.

A constructive and meaningful use of outrage would be to try and figure out what to do next, and find policy makers to take it forward. Gnashing of teeth isn't a strategy.

But rarely will we see proposals in these threads. The discussion starts and ends with the over the top outrage.

Because in many cases, outrage is really the only point being made.

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I'd rather have my hair on fire than my head in the sand, when it comes to Corporate Power [View all] Armstead May 2014 OP

It's a symptom of Hair-on-Fire-ness to think those are the only two options alcibiades_mystery May 2014 #1

That is my point -- There are many ways to look at these things Armstead May 2014 #2

And 3)..... Armstead May 2014 #6

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From a letter written by Theodore Roosevelt to President Wilson about the Progressive party Bonhomme Richard May 2014 #7

We seem deternmined to go into the past to the time just before Roosevelt wrote that Armstead May 2014 #27

He had balls but it took more than that. Bonhomme Richard May 2014 #38

Isn't this ProSense May 2014 #8

I have absolutey no problem with people who have differences of opinion if.... Armstead May 2014 #17

So ProSense May 2014 #18

I got tired of retyping te same thing Armstead May 2014 #21

Do you ProSense May 2014 #23

Aren't you getting tired of copying and pasting the same thing? elzenmahn May 2014 #24

No, but if you're tired of reading my posts, it would be a good idea to stop. LOL! n/t ProSense May 2014 #26

Good idea. n/t Bonhomme Richard May 2014 #39

Thanks. n/t ProSense May 2014 #42

... progressoid May 2014 #55

Are you for or against net neutrality. & the costly TPP? grahamhgreen May 2014 #59

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Well said. zeemike May 2014 #10

We are owned. Pure and simple. The hynotized see otherwise. We need to free ourselves. Lint Head May 2014 #11

And then read Marx - TBF May 2014 #62

If you try to close the barn door before the horses get out you will run into trouble. rhett o rick May 2014 #14

Well put. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #15

It's not a binary situation. It's not black and white. The entire issue is various shades of gray. MohRokTah May 2014 #16

Most issues DO have shades of grey. Armstead May 2014 #19

And that's the black and white extremes at work. MohRokTah May 2014 #20

In theory I aree with that Armstead May 2014 #25

And I cannot disagree with anything you've said there, either. The money is the differentiating... MohRokTah May 2014 #28

Hopefully not forever -- But it will be a huge setback for the rest of us Armstead May 2014 #31

Everything in 3D is binary. n/t DeSwiss May 2014 #45

and the weirdest thing they act like they're constantly right (or have ever been) MisterP May 2014 #22

I boycott most every big corporate thing I can, at some cost to my convenience, but not much. hunter May 2014 #29

When everthing is a "hair-on-fire" event, nothing is. JoePhilly May 2014 #30

That's because there ARE so many reasons to have hair on fire Armstead May 2014 #33

I love a lecture from one of DU's high Priests of liberalsim. JoePhilly May 2014 #37

DU has not been mute on that point. But I guess you missed those. Armstead May 2014 #40

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True and with use of hyperbole treestar May 2014 #70

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Yep MissDeeds May 2014 #34

My hair is on fire too, along with my heart. bvar22 May 2014 #35

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K&R. Yes please! Overseas May 2014 #71

K&R DeSwiss May 2014 #44

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Because I'm an asshole Armstead May 2014 #47

because it wasn't posted by William or Manny or a BOG member Doctor_J May 2014 #54

Pehaps false dichotomies aren't as popular as you'd hope? n/t Silent3 May 2014 #57

Are those the only two choices? tabasco May 2014 #48

Only two viable ones at this point unfortunately Armstead May 2014 #79

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Great term, WalMartization... Octafish May 2014 #61

Elephonkys and Demophants? L0oniX May 2014 #68

. nationalize the fed May 2014 #77

Kicking this to the top for anyone who's missed it thus far. Efilroft Sul May 2014 #50

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I'm with you! snot May 2014 #56

K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #58

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Accusing others of being short sighted and myopic Progressive dog May 2014 #63

You're probably right Armstead May 2014 #65

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