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In reply to the discussion: I'd rather have my hair on fire than my head in the sand, when it comes to Corporate Power [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and I have found much encouragement in the increased frequency of efforts like this since I came here a couple of years ago.
Them and their support for, acquiescence over, or relative apathy about many issues that arises from ignorance, shortsightedness, or simply not being a lefty in sufficent measure to care more about what being one means as opposed "winning elections" that have largely been just baby steps in the rightwing direction, are every bit as much 'OUR" problem as the rightwingnuts they fear so but share so much with -- and particularly the tactics you addressed here. That's why I gave up all hope of playing nicely with them long ago.
The bottom line to me has always been that only results matter, and all the good intentions they may or may not have in this case has for the last couple of decades and more, merely been a paving of the road to our collective hell.
And the upcoming HC candidacy will be another win for them and the rightwing/repub-lite agenda they unwittingly or otherwise support.
As I've argued it to those creeps from the beginning -- this debate is really all and simply ONLY about what the respective parties embroiled in this debate are willing to settle for outta our leaders, and we all identify who and what we are in the process. I have almost as much disdain for the third way morans as I do the rightwingnuts, and reciprocation on that is one thing we share in common, and often serves as the fodder for efforts such as yours here.
The question that the DU community needs to answer, is whether this is a "liberal" house, or one to also be occupied by those who are complicit in the ruination of the "liberal" country we all presumably want. It's one thing for them to be living in the same house as partners in that goal, while quite another to be playing the role the content of your post makes clear. As I've argued it from the beginning, their BS is not only counterproductive, it's really kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts in terms of any GOTV efforts. They accuse us of diminshing interest with our concerns and objections to what is or potentially could be, e.g. chained cpi, etc, while either being oblivious to or not caring about the fact that they are pushing people away with their "hair on fire" characterizations and far worse. They've been validating the fears, etc, of their victims, given that there's really not much diff between what they're doing and that coming from the third way leaders. https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/08/1297912/-Why-Yes-Bill-Clinton-Has-Nothing-But-Contempt-for-You&sa=U&ei=4qZvU42GGsGnyASW2oHoCA&ved=0CBsQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHnD6Gdtx6zxzpC1ybbwUmiXRMICg http://www.opednews.com/articles/Hillary-Clinton-Likes-Obam-by-Eric-Zuesse-Health-Care-Universal--Single-Payer_Hillary-Clinton_Hillary-Clinton_Single-payer-140301-877.html
It's the same kinda mindless zeal and self-destructive behavior their rightwingnut cousins engage in.
good post