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dsc

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50. a few things
Sun May 11, 2014, 09:19 PM
May 2014

First, the thread you linked was a link that Obama richly deserved when it was written. Yes, he has gotten a lot done now, but he surely hadn't, nor had he shown much sign of trying to, get a lot done then. I will concede that Obama wound up being better for gays than I thought he would be but he also was dragged a bit to that. Left to his own devices the military would still be under DADT as he had wanted to wait until 2011 to try to pass that change. Gays, including some in the thread you ridiculed, helped make Obama do what he did. That said, the notion he waited until it was popular to support marriage equality is belied by the fact equality got its ass kicked in NC just one day before his announcement (we lost 61 to 39)

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Oration in Memory of Abraham Lincoln (Frederick Douglass 1876) struggle4progress May 2014 #1
Silly choice of words ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #2
Isn't it possible he had strong emotions about equality? Motown_Johnny May 2014 #3
The Fierce Urgency of Now denem May 2014 #5
What's "silly" is your post. Cha May 2014 #52
And the moment that polls showed most Americans favored gay marriage MannyGoldstein May 2014 #4
"... Few great public men have ever been the victims of fiercer denunciation ... He was often struggle4progress May 2014 #6
So, for the record, you agree with my post? nt MannyGoldstein May 2014 #9
Dunno. Were you expressing an opinion, attempting to make a factual claim without supplying evidence struggle4progress May 2014 #11
A factual claim to add perspective MannyGoldstein May 2014 #12
June 2009 struggle4progress May 2014 #16
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September 2009 struggle4progress May 2014 #18
October 2009 struggle4progress May 2014 #19
February 2010 struggle4progress May 2014 #20
April 2010 struggle4progress May 2014 #21
October 2010 struggle4progress May 2014 #22
So you agree with my post? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #23
October 2010 struggle4progress May 2014 #24
Some people just refuse to see the truth when it's right before them, eh? Great work putting this okaawhatever May 2014 #29
So you disagree with my post? nt MannyGoldstein May 2014 #30
June 2011 struggle4progress May 2014 #33
July 2011 struggle4progress May 2014 #34
October 2011 struggle4progress May 2014 #35
December 2011 struggle4progress May 2014 #36
March 2012 struggle4progress May 2014 #38
May 2012 struggle4progress May 2014 #39
November 2012 struggle4progress May 2014 #40
December 2012 struggle4progress May 2014 #41
So I take it that you agree with my post? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #42
I'm just providing some facts to add perspective struggle4progress May 2014 #48
Jan 2013 struggle4progress May 2014 #44
June 2013 struggle4progress May 2014 #45
August 2013 struggle4progress May 2014 #46
December 2013 struggle4progress May 2014 #47
So? Other times he is slammed for not doing what the majority wants. treestar May 2014 #7
Following is better than lagging behind MannyGoldstein May 2014 #8
We don't need to be led by the politicians treestar May 2014 #10
Leading=Dictatorship MannyGoldstein May 2014 #25
The OP certainly implies that black Americans are following the President on gay rights Fumesucker May 2014 #49
Knocking doors and jingling phones in the spring of 2012, I heard everything: struggle4progress May 2014 #37
And he will go down in history as having ended DADT and DOMA. JoePhilly May 2014 #13
No, I'm quite happy that he did those things. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #26
Here's what I predict ... JoePhilly May 2014 #28
A few more facts for you Manny. denem May 2014 #15
I'm of the better late than never school, so I would not have said that. QC May 2014 #43
DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2014 #14
Two types of leaders, in one group you have the LBJ's and FDR's randys1 May 2014 #27
There is no question Obama has been an ally for equality since entering office... Drunken Irishman May 2014 #31
Hagel: Military Transgender Ban 'Should Be Reviewed'... ProSense May 2014 #32
a few things dsc May 2014 #50
He never got ENDA done. DemocraticWing May 2014 #51
The Reality of ENDA.. Cha May 2014 #53
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