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In reply to the discussion: Obama: “I’m a ‘Fierce Advocate’ for Gay and Lesbians" (2009) [View all]dsc
(53,445 posts)50. a few things
First, the thread you linked was a link that Obama richly deserved when it was written. Yes, he has gotten a lot done now, but he surely hadn't, nor had he shown much sign of trying to, get a lot done then. I will concede that Obama wound up being better for gays than I thought he would be but he also was dragged a bit to that. Left to his own devices the military would still be under DADT as he had wanted to wait until 2011 to try to pass that change. Gays, including some in the thread you ridiculed, helped make Obama do what he did. That said, the notion he waited until it was popular to support marriage equality is belied by the fact equality got its ass kicked in NC just one day before his announcement (we lost 61 to 39)
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"... Few great public men have ever been the victims of fiercer denunciation ... He was often
struggle4progress
May 2014
#6
Dunno. Were you expressing an opinion, attempting to make a factual claim without supplying evidence
struggle4progress
May 2014
#11
Some people just refuse to see the truth when it's right before them, eh? Great work putting this
okaawhatever
May 2014
#29
The OP certainly implies that black Americans are following the President on gay rights
Fumesucker
May 2014
#49
Knocking doors and jingling phones in the spring of 2012, I heard everything:
struggle4progress
May 2014
#37
There is no question Obama has been an ally for equality since entering office...
Drunken Irishman
May 2014
#31