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31. The Present Violence, Ma'am, Owes To Putin's Procurement Of Secession

Sun May 11, 2014, 11:41 PM

May 2014

Unlike the phantom IMF coup, there is clear evidence Russian special ops types are on the ground in the east of Ukraine and leading the secessionists under arms.

My view of violence is that people engage in it at their own risk; everyone has a right to fight, but no right to succeed, and the penalties for failure can be heavy. Something people should think about before they take up the club or the gun.

Despite your denials, as a matter of practical fact, you support Putin and his program of annexation. That is the side you have chosen in this. That you support the world's leading fascist in the name of anti-fascism gives it an extra twist of humor, certainly....

"When idealists come down out of their ivory towers, they generally head straight for the gutter."

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Will the Government Listen? Ukraine: Lies and Realities - CounterPunch [View all] newthinking May 2014 OP

counterpunch ? JI7 May 2014 #1

Counterpunch is a liberal site newthinking May 2014 #4

Funny that someone would question Counterpunch as a source or not be familiar with it. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #20

comparing Counterpunch to Mother Jones is an insult to Mother Jones... dionysus May 2014 #52

True, Sir: 'Mother Jones' Is A Solid Left Journal The Magistrate May 2014 #54

Ok Jesus Malverde May 2014 #57

Counterpunch is certainly not "liberal" and it is probably not even "leftist" struggle4progress May 2014 #30

You're wrong. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #33

Perhaps to your view, a-holes like "Israel Shamir" are liberals or leftists struggle4progress May 2014 #38

They Go In For Paul Craig Roberts As well, Sir: A Virulent Racist And Anti-Semite The Magistrate May 2014 #43

And, of course, Paul Craig Roberts has also published "Israel Shamir" struggle4progress May 2014 #56

They Do, Sir, Edge Out At Times Into That Shadowy Place.... The Magistrate May 2014 #35

Ideologues are often similar, insofar as the same psychological mechanisms are required struggle4progress May 2014 #48

True, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #66

another one under the bus. Lets see, common Dreams, Press TV, Slate, Democracy now newthinking May 2014 #36

What this site need is a list of "approved" sources... MattSh May 2014 #59

Yep, they may need to convene a council and have hearings to decide newthinking May 2014 #60

You're wrong. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #63

"Press TV" ???! LOL Who doesn't love the mouth piece of the Iranian Ayatollah's?? n/t EX500rider May 2014 #72

Don't forget the North Korean News Agency! EX500rider May 2014 #73

+1000 eom Purveyor May 2014 #75

Counterpuke is not a "liberal site." ProSense May 2014 #46

How about these. I don't source RT. So maybe you can tell me who I should believe and who not? newthinking May 2014 #51

Maybe you should make a list of all the books we should burn, err I mean sites we should BAN. rhett o rick May 2014 #68

quite familiar with that crackpot joint, thank you... dionysus May 2014 #50

Why dont you spell out your objection in lieu of "insinuation by question"? nm rhett o rick May 2014 #47

rhett o rick ? Jesus Malverde May 2014 #64

Have Not read Swill Like This Since Pravda, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #2

There is no way you had time to read the article (other than skim and find something out of context newthinking May 2014 #3

You Post a Thing Up, Sir, You Get People Commenting On It The Magistrate May 2014 #6

you win the match, easily... Sir dionysus May 2014 #53

I have to laugh my ass off at you, seriously .... polly7 May 2014 #5

I See No Reason To Believe He Spoke To Any Such Person, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #7

Many of us are able to remember 'history', see what's happening today right polly7 May 2014 #8

And Somehow, Ma'am, The People Who Say That In This Dispute The Magistrate May 2014 #9

You give yourself far too much credit, believing only you know what is propaganda. polly7 May 2014 #10

You Might Say That, Ma'am: I Would Refrain From Comment On If You Are Or Are Not Stupid The Magistrate May 2014 #11

I'll comment on what I please, whether you consider me stupid or not, polly7 May 2014 #12

I Have Nothing Against Russia Or Russians, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #13

"The rest of this just noise, and not worth serious engagement." polly7 May 2014 #14

You Seem To Be Cheering For Something, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #15

I'm cheering for a people to have the ability to decide their own fate, polly7 May 2014 #16

Then, Ma'am, You Support Over-Throwing Yanukovich Some Weeks Ago The Magistrate May 2014 #17

No, don't lie about what I support. polly7 May 2014 #18

If, Ma'am, You Support People Being Free To Decide Their Fate Without Fear, You Must The Magistrate May 2014 #19

There were no votes, polly7 May 2014 #21

Ah...The IMF Threw The Coup, Ma'am.... The Magistrate May 2014 #22

Of course it does. polly7 May 2014 #23

Not a Fact Worth Mentioning In The Lot, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #24

Oh. polly7 May 2014 #25

Nothing, Ma'am, That Constitutes Evidence The IMF Procured A Coup The Magistrate May 2014 #26

Well, at least I'm not supporting a brutal right-wing 'leadership' intent on shoving austerity down polly7 May 2014 #27

You Are Supporting Putin, Ma'am: A Right-Wing Fascist Bent On Seizing Land And People The Magistrate May 2014 #28

'Putin' isn't the one burning protesters alive or gunning them down. polly7 May 2014 #29

The Present Violence, Ma'am, Owes To Putin's Procurement Of Secession The Magistrate May 2014 #31

I just said, I 'don't' support Putin. polly7 May 2014 #32

And Yet In Fact, Ma'am, You Do The Magistrate May 2014 #34

I think I love you! William769 May 2014 #37

Thank You, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #39

That's 'too', and I'm not deaf at all. polly7 May 2014 #41

LOL! polly7 May 2014 #40

I Appreciate Your Confirmation, Ma'am, Of The Accuracy Of My Comments The Magistrate May 2014 #44

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See, good things happen to those who wait. William769 May 2014 #55

Seeing a master at work is a privilege. Number23 May 2014 #62

Do you know about the USSR occupation of Ukraine? Do you know about Stalin's slaughter snagglepuss May 2014 #67

Since you're obviously the expert... MattSh May 2014 #58

Every time I see this sort of crap... MohRokTah May 2014 #42

I hope you'll go sign up and march along with them TBF May 2014 #69

I'm too old. MohRokTah May 2014 #70

now counterpunch nationalize the fed May 2014 #49

counterpunch has been a joke for a long time , it was mostly Hannah Bell JI7 May 2014 #61

What are you thinking, nobody can stop them... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #65

forget Counterpunch, let's consider Andre Vltchek G_j May 2014 #71

Wow. It lost me from the first sentence. Literally. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #74