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25. most of the comments i read

Reply to madfloridian (Original post)

Mon May 12, 2014, 06:03 AM

May 2014

blamed common core on liberals and progressives. i'm out of the loop; is this stuff a liberal, progressive innovation?

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A frustrated parent responds on a Common Core assignment. Looks like it's back to the old New Math. [View all] madfloridian May 2014 OP

Parent is right. In real world simplication is valued over complicated. madfloridian May 2014 #1

What's really frightening about this. . . . Tansy_Gold May 2014 #2

On The Courteous Assumption This Is Real, Ma'am, I Would Sympathize With The Parent The Magistrate May 2014 #3

It's real. madfloridian May 2014 #8

I Bow To Your Expertise, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2014 #9

They're trying to disconnect algorithms from concepts. joshcryer May 2014 #119

Not only is the page a rightwing screed, but... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #4

Explain your reference to "rightwing screed". madfloridian May 2014 #7

Read the comments about how it's all a liberal conspiracy... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #10

I think the "hotshot engineer" was referring to process mostly. madfloridian May 2014 #17

Where do you get the idea I approve of it? I thought... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #21

Well that is a RW Facebook meme nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #11

Okay, let's have one curriculum thru the whole country. madfloridian May 2014 #16

I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing to have Skidmore May 2014 #34

Do you realize that testing companies will set that curriculum in large part? madfloridian May 2014 #41

Is that the only way it can be done? Skidmore May 2014 #47

I agree, but that is the way it is being done. madfloridian May 2014 #49

I hate to point this out nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #64

The "left" is equally strong in opposition to increased testing. madfloridian May 2014 #33

agreed; I detest the Common Core and am glad our crazy NC GOP is trying to eliminate it zazen May 2014 #55

Look up Sweeden nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #66

Testing IS the problem...it is excessive. Fails both students and teachers. madfloridian May 2014 #68

Testing *is implementation.* nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #72

It also uses the hashtag #tcot, which I find is "top conservatives on twitter" muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #26

Both left and right are strong in opposition to common core, and usually to Arne's "reforms". madfloridian May 2014 #29

that's not the error hollysmom May 2014 #22

Frustrated Parent, realize the Real World is...DUMB! alp227 May 2014 #5

You know what is amazing nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #6

ah, the celebration of willful, determined ignorance and stupidity. unblock May 2014 #12

That is a large part of it nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #14

I consider your last paragraph insulting to parents who really care about their children. madfloridian May 2014 #18

that paragraph was in the context of the op, which unblock May 2014 #52

Anybody that doesn't understand the geometric interpretation of subtraction mathematic May 2014 #13

I think you're the first person I've run into who actually recognizes both what New Math was Ms. Toad May 2014 #15

"This is just the latest in history's long line of teachers corrupting the youth" Really? madfloridian May 2014 #31

Have a technician look at your sarcasm meter. Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #54

No, YOUR post has that theme mathematic May 2014 #56

Seriously???? Maybe this will help..... msanthrope May 2014 #115

Do you believe that teachers have any roody May 2014 #37

A number line can be much more intuitive than simply stating 427-316 = 111 Chathamization May 2014 #70

The number line is confusing to me but I've never had a teacher explain how to use it. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #87

Hah! Don't blame the old new math. I took that as a kid and it was nothing like this. pnwmom May 2014 #19

What does common core have to do with this assignment? Egnever May 2014 #20

Nothing jberryhill May 2014 #51

Why do those people believe the math and Common Core are liberal? Enthusiast May 2014 #23

Becaue the Koch Bros have told them so. baldguy May 2014 #24

most of the comments i read barbtries May 2014 #25

It's Arne Duncan's policy. madfloridian May 2014 #30

And with that sentence you've said it all. TBF May 2014 #32

I've been struggling to understand this as well deutsey May 2014 #35

That last about Louis C K is quite true. Both left and right opposed. madfloridian May 2014 #40

letting Dems pass hardcore GOP/corpo policies lets them be blamed on "libs" (which are MisterP May 2014 #90

thanks for the response. barbtries May 2014 #112

As much as she loves to blame Arne Duncan nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #78

You are right. Arne Duncan is implementing Bush's policies. madfloridian May 2014 #81

Perhaps I don't remember correctly nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #82

I just agreed with you that Democrats are implementing Bush policies. madfloridian May 2014 #85

Has it occurred to you that this is not a party thing nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #89

A trip down memory lane, Nadin.... msanthrope May 2014 #117

Never having seen a 'number line' before, I can see the idea behind it ... muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #27

This was apparently practice for the test. madfloridian May 2014 #28

So I looked for some resources on how to use a number line for subtraction muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #38

Part of the point is that it doesn't matter which end you start from. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #100

Teaching conceptual math is not a bad thing. MineralMan May 2014 #36

The most important thing a strugging student can have is one on one personal instruction Fumesucker May 2014 #43

Absolutely. MineralMan May 2014 #46

Yes, different approaches are needed. madfloridian May 2014 #69

Well, based on the information in the OP, MineralMan May 2014 #75

I took shop in HS and learned a lot from it Fumesucker May 2014 #122

Is this real? This makes no sense. chrisa May 2014 #39

Some of the responses to this thread seem to be seeking confirmation that one, the CC is based Jefferson23 May 2014 #42

Good observation. Is it wrong or right per se, not whether left or right. madfloridian May 2014 #44

The public can and has been misled about CC but that seems to be falling apart..thankfully. Jefferson23 May 2014 #45

Bzzzz: nothing to do with Common Core; myth dispelled in Atlantic frazzled May 2014 #48

Actually under Arne education is not locally controlled. madfloridian May 2014 #50

Your response has nothing to do with the issue frazzled May 2014 #59

Her response does have a great deal to do with the issue, and your OP is far less than accurate: Jefferson23 May 2014 #62

See my other response to you. madfloridian May 2014 #65

I believe frazzled May 2014 #74

Article you posted said education has always been locally controlled. madfloridian May 2014 #63

It doesn't say that at all frazzled May 2014 #76

In the quote you posted: "Education has always been locally controlled" muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #77

Read the second half of the sentence frazzled May 2014 #86

Are you aware of what the conjunction 'and' means? muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #88

I don't know where you are getting all that stuff I did not say. madfloridian May 2014 #79

Why is the second step 127 minus 60 ??? DetlefK May 2014 #53

Good question. madfloridian May 2014 #58

where do you see that? mike_c May 2014 #93

+1. This approach is all about emphasizing place value. winter is coming May 2014 #96

Then, where is the mistake in the exercise? DetlefK May 2014 #118

ah-- it should have been... mike_c May 2014 #123

Hey mad, here's an interesting article in the weekly rag dealing with the testing at a local school. hobbit709 May 2014 #57

Common Core is being used by the big corporations to take billions of dollars of local tax dollars greatlaurel May 2014 #60

My first programming professor used to say, "Simplify, simplify, simplify." CrispyQ May 2014 #61

Yes, we often taught the number line even in early grades. But this one is confusing... madfloridian May 2014 #67

Some basic understanding of the foundations of CC that should be seen as problematic Jefferson23 May 2014 #71

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #73

Wow! "It shows a lack of qualification to act as an educator" Wow. I fooled everyone for 33 years. madfloridian May 2014 #80

You are really hitting a deep nerve when the attacks on you get so nasty. greatlaurel May 2014 #83

.... madfloridian May 2014 #84

You are a true fighter for truth and justice, as are most teachers. greatlaurel May 2014 #94

That one came this close for me to hit the alert button nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #91

+1. My alert and I was pleased to see a unanimous hide. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #97

an alternative perspective.... mike_c May 2014 #92

Hi Mike greatlaurel May 2014 #95

Here is a news flash nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #99

That's the problem. No one is asking teachers for solutions. madfloridian May 2014 #102

And.... nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #104

Ravitch has the big guns after her. madfloridian May 2014 #106

Again... and... nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #107

If I could I would. madfloridian May 2014 #108

When you do, let me know nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #109

No, Diane Ravitch does not have the big guns after her. She's a former Bush employee who msanthrope May 2014 #116

You're a good mom. joshcryer May 2014 #120

oh I completely agree with your broader comment about high stakes testing, etc.... mike_c May 2014 #113

Nice post. madfloridian May 2014 #114

a numberline is a fundamental concept in math. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #98

I know. I taught it. I enjoyed it, my class enjoyed it. I am not RW, I am not anti-intellectual. madfloridian May 2014 #101

The test question is fine. You have conflated it with other issues and fallen for Warren Stupidity May 2014 #103

Really? I have "fallen for rightwing anti-intellectual glorifying idiocy bullshit" Wow. madfloridian May 2014 #105

And yet, for integer subtraction like this, it doesn't really help muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #110

Indeed it is, you and I normally agree quite a lot Fumesucker May 2014 #121

Someone is suffering from engineer know-it-all syndrome Taitertots May 2014 #111