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merrily

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87. That is a truism.

Mon May 12, 2014, 11:02 AM

May 2014

Yesterday's political reality was not today's either. The Democratic Party was a lot more deeply divided behind LBJ (and Truman and FDR) than it ever has been behind Obama.

In LBJ's day, politicians took political a$$ whippings and kept it moving, without running to the press to whine about how terrible they had been treated

Who told you that? It's not true. Besides, politicians' whining to the media is not an excuse for anything. In Lincoln's day, there was no radio. That didn't make passage of the 13th through 15th amendments any easier--or any less dangerous to Lincoln.

Lincoln knowingly risked both his political future and his life and LBJ did the same (though by LBJ's day, Secret Service somewhat reduced the risk to his life. They both lost their risks, but they fought like hell anyway.

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