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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
61. It's really
Mon May 12, 2014, 06:25 PM
May 2014

"Although the post was locked, I saw the words with your name next to them. I'll provide the link with your permission, the one where you call Hillary a hawk. Let me know."

...important to prove your bogus point, isn't it? I mean, using the word "hawk" to describe Hillary doesn't mean I agree with Greenwald's point which was:

"Hillary is banal, corrupted, drained of vibrancy and passion. I mean, she’s been around forever, the Clinton circle. She’s a fucking hawk and like a neocon, practically."

Again, Greenwald's a hypocrite and an opportunist. His attempt to pre-emptively discredit critics is telling: "But she’s going to be the first female president, and women in America are going to be completely invested in her candidacy. Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist."

Even more bizarre is his attack on a strawman, a future "gay" Democratic Presidential candidate: "They’ll probably have a gay person after Hillary who’s just going to do the same thing."

"They'll" seems to be a reference to the Democratic Party.

Should I repeat that again?

I mean, it's clear that Greenwald fans have adopted is rebuttal tactic: claiming he's right because he's just like (insert name).

No, I don't agree with Greenwald. You're going to have to find validation elsewhere.



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yeah... and.......? ellenrr May 2014 #1
"And" I think ProSense May 2014 #7
Excellent suggestion. eom saltpoint May 2014 #53
I'd like to see a response myself. sheshe2 May 2014 #74
Wow. Cha May 2014 #83
You won the godamn Internets with that reply. nt msanthrope May 2014 #93
.. Cha May 2014 #116
That's a good start. Concur. nt MADem May 2014 #125
That one was a hit with the Greenwald crowd. ucrdem May 2014 #156
one of the recs looks like the troll who was banned multiple times today JI7 May 2014 #159
Snap! Hekate May 2014 #161
Feh! Greenwald the Manichaean. MineralMan May 2014 #2
Well....I wouldn't say she was completely without passion...mostly, maybe. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #3
Then Greenwald too must be "banal" and a "fucking hawk" for supporting the Iraq War. Dawson Leery May 2014 #4
WTH would you post that link? Capt. Obvious May 2014 #12
This smear about Greenwald "supporting the Iraq War" is such total bullshit! scarletwoman May 2014 #36
No---Mr. Greenwald was not a 'private citizen.' He called victims of racism 'odious and repugnant' msanthrope May 2014 #97
I see your point, and you have convinced me Dragonfli May 2014 #70
Bravo! Superb! scarletwoman May 2014 #103
Well, I am consistent, I don't make excuses for some and not others Dragonfli May 2014 #128
Exactly right. JEB May 2014 #109
I am sure that book will come out as soon as her book decrying off-shoring jobs Dragonfli May 2014 #134
Hey, ProSense May 2014 #119
Oh, don't worry about that sweetie, I hate all assholes that cause death destruction and poverty. Dragonfli May 2014 #131
Well, ProSense May 2014 #137
I have been here ten years and I have been consistent. Dragonfli May 2014 #144
Huh? How on earth is that comment "trying to make up about" you? ProSense May 2014 #145
It certainly appeared as if you were attempting to connect me with Ron Paul, whom I never even Dragonfli May 2014 #146
You need to reread the comment because you read something into it that's not there. n/t ProSense May 2014 #147
I Reread it, still awaiting an apology, I never showed the slightest support for Paul Dragonfli May 2014 #148
Point to where it states you showed "support for Paul" ProSense May 2014 #149
If you were not making an implication regarding Paul, was that post perhaps meant for Dragonfli May 2014 #150
See, you can't n/t ProSense May 2014 #151
. Dragonfli May 2014 #152
Like I said ProSense May 2014 #153
This message was self-deleted by its author Dragonfli May 2014 #155
You win the internets today Caretha May 2014 #129
Well, no one can say you're not earning your keep, right? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #158
And . . . Le Taz Hot May 2014 #5
"She’s a fucking hawk and like a neocon, practically." NYC_SKP May 2014 #6
Right. And Al Gore would have gotten us into the Iraq war because he and George Bush pnwmom May 2014 #8
But didn't Hillary Clinton also support said war? n/t malaise May 2014 #10
"With Conviction" nationalize the fed May 2014 #13
Hillary never would have gotten us into the war in the first place. pnwmom May 2014 #17
And THAT is why Hillary, in a justified fury, bvar22 May 2014 #24
The bottom line is that the sole impetus for the war was Bush's obsession pnwmom May 2014 #32
Playing Dodge Ball today? bvar22 May 2014 #47
"in a justified fury" AngryAmish May 2014 #41
I would be justifyably furious if the Village Idiot from Texas... bvar22 May 2014 #46
Inside wrestling, the fans are called marks. AngryAmish May 2014 #95
Well you know Caretha May 2014 #139
well played, sir AngryAmish May 2014 #40
I will be awaiting his review of the GOP candidate... DontTreadOnMe May 2014 #9
Oh, he'll coyly make pleasant noises about several libertarians, just as he has in the past struggle4progress May 2014 #31
Truth cuts like a knife nationalize the fed May 2014 #11
The asshole who supports the Citizens United decision... Spazito May 2014 #14
You got that right. Just another libertarian asshole. NT Adrahil May 2014 #16
Bear in mind that the ACLU also fully supports the Citizens United decision. (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #18
Is the ACLU now talking out of both sides of their 'mouths' ... Spazito May 2014 #19
The ACLU actually had a great deal of internal conflict before their statement came out, there Jefferson23 May 2014 #90
I hadn't read their rationale for supporting Citizens United since the decision came so... Spazito May 2014 #94
I thought the rigorous in fighting was telling but I did not agree with their outcome. Jefferson23 May 2014 #96
I, too, support publicly funded elections, it is the only way to equalize the playing field... Spazito May 2014 #98
Yea, for the vast majority of their work, I am a big supporter, financially too..but not on this one Jefferson23 May 2014 #99
I would love to see that happen but, being cynical, I don't see it anytime in the near future... Spazito May 2014 #100
Huge battle, but it is the most important one..as so many of the ills we see stem from that Jefferson23 May 2014 #101
I agree, it is the most important one... Spazito May 2014 #104
Yep, they are there to serve us and it's time we got back on track. Jefferson23 May 2014 #111
Completely agree! Spazito May 2014 #115
I bet they know the ACLU supports Citizen United but conveniently ignore it. NOVA_Dem May 2014 #22
They often support Nazis as well baldguy May 2014 #127
Yep. eom BlueCaliDem May 2014 #154
His boss has a net worth north of $8 billion. OilemFirchen May 2014 #37
Good point, I had forgotten about his new friend... Spazito May 2014 #39
LOL @ GG.. why he could be talking about himself.. "sleazy money types" fucking hypocrite. Cha May 2014 #85
It is hilarious in a pathetic way, isn't it... Spazito May 2014 #91
It is pathetically hilarious.. they're their own vicious worst enemies. Cha May 2014 #92
Greenwald ... and Hillary! 1000words May 2014 #15
Why is the truth controversial? whatchamacallit May 2014 #20
It maybe because he's a hypocrite and an opportunist. His attempt ProSense May 2014 #27
But you do agree with his description of her? oneofthe99 May 2014 #77
Actually, I think he is close to on target though I suspect a Hispanic between the woman TheKentuckian May 2014 #86
Greenwald is just putting his pre-emptive narrative in place. n/t ProSense May 2014 #110
An opposition to GG is depicted as against all ugly A$$holes. lol Cha May 2014 #87
Someone will be along shortly to say that you quoted Greenwald "out of context" Blue_Tires May 2014 #21
Evidently, Greenwald ProSense May 2014 #38
And Greenwald is a "fucking asshole". MohRokTah May 2014 #23
He sounds drunk. DURHAM D May 2014 #25
I completely agree with Greenwald re Hillary. scarletwoman May 2014 #26
Is there actually DU members who disagree with this?? oneofthe99 May 2014 #78
Only those in the profession Paulie May 2014 #136
Me too. Enthusiast May 2014 #124
true, obviously true, undebatable...by anyone who's been alive for the last 20 years or so... ellenrr May 2014 #175
Attacking the Clintons seems so 1990s: struggle4progress May 2014 #28
I will make my own opinion of her. hrmjustin May 2014 #29
She has a record. Enough to form an opinion today Paulie May 2014 #138
As I said I will make my own opinion of her. hrmjustin May 2014 #141
Yes, we know this already. PeteSelman May 2014 #30
Yah hey, Glenn, speaking of money, you are shilling for your book, aren'tcha? riqster May 2014 #33
That is not entirely fair, she appears quite passionate when speaking to Goldman Sachs Dragonfli May 2014 #34
"Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been..." phleshdef May 2014 #35
Greenwald's hero Rand Paul obviously stands to benefit geek tragedy May 2014 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #43
You really need to brush up on your History. bvar22 May 2014 #48
I prefer a Democrat choosing SCOTUS replacements. Old and In the Way May 2014 #44
I think an activist packed Republican SCOTUS would use "The Handmaids Tale" as a blueprint Dragonfli May 2014 #75
And of course, greenwald is not right wing DonCoquixote May 2014 #45
I disagree that she's drained of vibrancy and passion. Scuba May 2014 #49
he's basically right, but he doesn't need to use such language RussBLib May 2014 #50
No mystery - Greenwald will vote for Rand Paul. blm May 2014 #51
I've read much better writers on DU.. VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #52
High schoolers don't win Pulitzers. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #57
I don't care...his writing is awful.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #58
Why in the hell does any Dem listen the what fucking Greenwald has to say? Auntie Bush May 2014 #54
So you're in agreement with Greenwald for a change. Glad to hear it. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #55
You're ProSense May 2014 #59
Although the post was locked, I saw the words with your name next to them. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #60
It's really ProSense May 2014 #61
Your words, ProSense, not mine. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #63
OMG, after everything I just wrote, ProSense May 2014 #68
I'm not searching for validaton or anything else. I was making a statement. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #69
Welcome back. ProSense May 2014 #72
OK, thanks for the link. Now explain what that means? That is ProSense May 2014 #73
bs, many people would say Hillary is a HAwk, that isn't the comlaint about Greenwald JI7 May 2014 #79
Not sure why this keeps coming up. I was pointing out that they both called Hillary a hawk DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #80
no, context is important or else it's like saying one agrees with Romney on economic issues JI7 May 2014 #82
"They’ll probably have a gay person after Hillary who’s just going to do the same thing." GG got a Cha May 2014 #88
Why is this CATO, Citizens United loving asshole welcome at DU? He's a third partyist, and... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #56
"America hater, kook and crackpot" describe GG perfectly. nt arely staircase May 2014 #64
Exactly. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #76
Yes, the "kook and crackpot" clause Bobbie Jo May 2014 #108
In the past few days Greenwald has talked shit about HRC, James Bond and somehow decided the US is arely staircase May 2014 #62
GG's a vicious hater and his own worst enemy. Then when he gets push back his fans Cha May 2014 #89
I'm floored by his James Bond hate....why does he think James Bond is "stupid?" nt msanthrope May 2014 #105
it is like he is running out of things to be a dick about. nt arely staircase May 2014 #106
Truly....so he's friends with James Blond, but hates James Bond? What an asshole. nt msanthrope May 2014 #107
That'll never happen. PragmaticLiberal May 2014 #140
I regard Greenwald's articles the same as rag magazine articles might be interesting to read Thinkingabout May 2014 #65
Greenwald choice of language negates whatever valid points he might be trying to get across DFW May 2014 #66
It's like Tourette's Syndrome or something. He can't just talk or write plainly. randome May 2014 #114
It's all about page views and hits. joshcryer May 2014 #121
I literally cannot WAIT for Hillary's response to this. If she bothers responding to this Number23 May 2014 #164
If she's smart, she'll ignore it and let it speak for itself DFW May 2014 #173
Oh FFS Hekate May 2014 #67
Finally... Something We Can All Agree On !!! - K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #81
and very likely to be our candidate for President. DCBob May 2014 #84
And he is right again TheKentuckian May 2014 #102
I'm just waiting for the tweet that claims he didn't say what he said. n/t ProSense May 2014 #112
A reasonably apt assessment. JEB May 2014 #113
Wonder if Greenwald ProSense May 2014 #117
I have no idea, but would imagine JEB May 2014 #120
Wonder if Hillary would make nice with the likes of Henry Kissinger? JEB May 2014 #122
Evidently not a problem for Hillary supporters. JEB May 2014 #142
Like attending a gala birthday for Kissinger? scarletwoman May 2014 #168
Wow, fuck GG. joshcryer May 2014 #118
Of course he couldn't say who he'd support (hint: Rand Paul) ecstatic May 2014 #123
And I guess Rand Paul is the Prince Of Peace in Greenwald's eyes. baldguy May 2014 #126
And why again should I care what Greenwald thinks? He doesn't even live in America, though he sits lostincalifornia May 2014 #130
True, but that's kind of a "water is wet" quote. marmar May 2014 #132
That assessment by GG does not require any leaked documents or phony investigations. JEB May 2014 #135
Greenwald needs a chill pill. Beacool May 2014 #133
She's not a hawk? Iggo May 2014 #143
Translation: "Ready for my next Benghazi, boss!" ucrdem May 2014 #157
God, what a charmer. The folks supporting him show so much more than they could ever realize Number23 May 2014 #160
GG sounds all weasely and jealous of Democrats.. like he's trying to stay relevant for his fans.. Cha May 2014 #163
That man ain't the brightest bulb in the box but he ain't crazy. He knows EXACTLY what red meat Number23 May 2014 #165
I'll wager he knows he can say anything and then sit back 'cause the fans will explain what it Cha May 2014 #166
Glenn Greenwald was stupid enough to back Bush's War for fuck sake until it was no Cha May 2014 #162
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #167
LOL! maddezmom May 2014 #170
Even so, that does not mean that what he says is not true. djean111 May 2014 #177
This must be his first election cycle. Orsino May 2014 #169
that is exactly why he sounds so naive. seems to be his first rodeo. bettyellen May 2014 #174
Good description of Hillary. nt woo me with science May 2014 #171
thats wack BootinUp May 2014 #172
Yes he is right mylye2222 May 2014 #176
Hillary Clinton is not the only woman mylye2222 May 2014 #178
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