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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
8. Depends on whose equipment has been intercepted.
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:23 AM
May 2014

An attack on one legitimate target of foreign surveillance is not the issue.

Every router bound for export isn't going to be used exclusively by America's enemies. American companies themselves are often international at this point. Are they subject to NSA surveillance without suspicion of wrongdoing?

And the NSA doesn't have a mandate to simply spy on every foreigner, everywhere.

Foreign business interests, for example would be an overreach just as warrantless domestic surveillance is, without some relevance to national security.

But as Greenwald pointed out on Colbert last night, NSA's own internal memos indicate its goal had become to collect everything, everywhere. That is not the mandate we gave it, and that is the point of all this.

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They've also been implanting control chips in the brains of the New Yorkers they export to Brazil! struggle4progress May 2014 #1
How's this for ignorant? Wilms May 2014 #2
The keyword is "exported." MineralMan May 2014 #3
The NSA is supposed to serve "national security." DirkGently May 2014 #4
So saying to be careful that China doesn't spy on us is hypocrisy? randome May 2014 #5
Yes. Doing what you criticize others for doing is hypocrisy. DirkGently May 2014 #7
How is this part of whistle blowing about Domestic Surveillance? JoePhilly May 2014 #6
Depends on whose equipment has been intercepted. DirkGently May 2014 #8
So nothing to do with domestic surveillance. JoePhilly May 2014 #10
They are NOT intercepting everything. It's ludicrous to think that. randome May 2014 #11
It's ludicrous to think they should try. DirkGently May 2014 #15
"The NSA does not have a mandate to just generally spy on the entire world." Um, yes. Yes they do. msanthrope May 2014 #13
Well you and Peter King (R NY) agree. Pres. Obama does not. DirkGently May 2014 #14
Oh please....don't mistake political theatre for reality. nt msanthrope May 2014 #16
Oh, wow. So Obama was being dishonest? DirkGently May 2014 #17
Sure greeny LOL, I'm sure the Chinese are too stupid to use wireshark LOL snooper2 May 2014 #9
HAHAHA What a nut job. As if the NSA has the manpower to intercept US Servers sold overseas. 951-Riverside May 2014 #12
"Agent Mike, there's a parcel headed for China! Activate the Go Team!" randome May 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan May 2014 #19
Huh, I only see one rofl in this thread so far mindwalker_i May 2014 #20
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