General Discussion

sarisataka

(22,701 posts)

106. Africa is a bit far for me

Tue May 13, 2014, 12:04 PM

May 2014

so there is little I can do directly.

In the U.S. however I have gone face to face with gay haters. It was the haters who changed my views on homosexuals from silent disapproval to open acceptance and advocacy. They caused me to examine my own prejudices and realize my hypocrisy.

I now will oppose any one such as this woman and have stood between those who would do violence to gays and their intended victims. I will freely meet violence with violence but I will not condone any violence against speech.

As for genocide, it is easy to talk about stopping it but much harder to do something. I have participated in peacekeeping missions to curtail violence against various ethnic and demographic groups. It is not pretty nor is it easy. Really the only way to stop such actions are to militarily occupy and assume absolute control over the troubled area. We have seen how well that works...

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

125 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Mother's Day gay hating mom gets Slushee poured on her in front of news cameras. [View all] catbyte May 2014 OP

The sign lady is a serious hot mess. CurtEastPoint May 2014 #1

GACK. Not surprising. She had that smug, glazed eyed look of a True Believer. catbyte May 2014 #2

I see that her husband is leaving her Cirque du So-What May 2014 #13

She's getting some serious pushback (not for the faint hearted) on her fb page, there.... MADem May 2014 #14

Can't see any of it. I'd have to "like" her or add her as a friend in order to do that. calimary May 2014 #75

I didn't "like" her--she must have changed her settings. MADem May 2014 #86

She must have changed it to private a few hours ago... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #93

Some of the people were really getting personal with her.... MADem May 2014 #115

nutcase Skittles May 2014 #28

But she has a great flower garden. How did she ever get a concealed carry permit? Nobel_Twaddle_III May 2014 #64

And... 2naSalit May 2014 #70

Now it's oozing out in a public way Oilwellian May 2014 #111

Yet another POS! She's lucky she just got Slushee, some gun toter might have done RKP5637 May 2014 #30

Ok, that is a character, and I don't mean it in a good way nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #33

She's made it private already jmowreader May 2014 #120

Technically, that is assault. HooptieWagon May 2014 #3

i need to grow up i suppose, i was cheering on the girl in the red shirt while watching this. m-lekktor May 2014 #4

It's pretty hard not to get fed up with their BS, and IMO they get way too much of a free pass to RKP5637 May 2014 #35

hurling a slushee onto someone isn't just "expressing displeasure". It is assault. KittyWampus May 2014 #5

Absolutely! Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind LynneSin May 2014 #7

and lost credibility Niceguy1 May 2014 #32

I mean....you know.... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #9

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #15

And, to be honest, most of if got on that heinous sign. catbyte May 2014 #89

so do you believe in free speech or not? Are you against bullying or not? Pick a lane. KittyWampus May 2014 #92

Yep. n/t Skip Intro May 2014 #20

As much as the message this woman was displaying was disgusting... LynneSin May 2014 #6

Yep, well said! It might feel good, but in the big picture we look worse. n/t RKP5637 May 2014 #36

I disagree minivan2 May 2014 #68

Who's "us?" A woman got pissed at her and threw a slushie at her. MADem May 2014 #87

No it's not. But trust me - the news channels will make her the face of progressives LynneSin May 2014 #90

But Lynne, the actual face of progressives was as usual, absent. Straight folks who claim to be Bluenorthwest May 2014 #101

Who knows? The bottom line, though, is we can't live in fear of what assholes think. MADem May 2014 #116

agreed, 1,000% nt magical thyme May 2014 #97

that is battery and is a crime arely staircase May 2014 #8

Sorry, but I really don't care what happens to people who treat others as subhuman. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #16

Wow, physical assault for people you disagree with? Classy! nt Logical May 2014 #18

Someone hates you to the point of desiring your extermination, and you're supposed to be all nomorenomore08 May 2014 #19

LOL, polite? How about not physically assaulting them? Wow, get it yet? nt Logical May 2014 #22

Was the woman severely injured? Will she have lifelong medical problems, or PTSD? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #23

WTF is wrong with you? A sign is not a reason to assault someone. nt Logical May 2014 #24

I guess I've just had it with spiteful, self-righteous folks who hate people just for being born nomorenomore08 May 2014 #25

Feeling like doing it is different than doing it. nt Logical May 2014 #31

You're right about that. And I do think I need to get a grip on my anger issues. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #34

That is true, but I sure know what you're feeling. I'm really fed up with creepy bigots. n/t RKP5637 May 2014 #37

I am sorry people have to be such assholes...... Logical May 2014 #40

I'm not gay, but I've come to feel the sting of prejudice very acutely, even if not directly. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #42

Anger is a gift. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #45

"Anger is an energy..." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #50

But "she was asking for it" jberryhill May 2014 #81

Some people just dont get it. Separation May 2014 #76

And to think Gandhi and MLK never used violence even when they were treated subhuman LynneSin May 2014 #99

And they were giants among men. Virtually no one would deny that. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #121

Their approach seems to be the more successful LynneSin May 2014 #125

Physical violence and rhetorical resistance are sometimes blurred... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #41

pretty sure that isnt what the relevant statute says. nt arely staircase May 2014 #43

Law is simply a means of obtaining justice. Which means law is subordinate to justice... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #48

I'm pretty sure that argument wouldnt work in court arely staircase May 2014 #51

Without question, my argument would crash and burn in court. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #55

her "action of resistance" was a dick move. check out the guy with counter sign downthread arely staircase May 2014 #58

What is your definition of "self-defense?" Gravitycollapse May 2014 #60

use of force to prevent imminent bodily harm arely staircase May 2014 #62

Okay, so you stick to the law. I do not. This is where we part ways. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #71

the whole "that person's speech provoked the violence against them" reminds me of when the arely staircase May 2014 #72

Let's talk about Justice for a minute jberryhill May 2014 #114

Thank you for explaining it better (and more dispassionately) than I probably could. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #49

pic of the slushy throw Liberal_in_LA May 2014 #10

If she did that to a cop she would have been cuffed and stuffed on the spot oneofthe99 May 2014 #57

actually it is battery, not assault. but yeah. arely staircase May 2014 #59

Nice aim. joshcryer May 2014 #88

Mmmm.... Scruffy Rumbler May 2014 #11

Now stunts like this are really going to help end bigotry. Brigid May 2014 #12

Well, I think she's got more trouble than just an ired person with a cold drink... MADem May 2014 #21

So the Slushee was her just desserts? jberryhill May 2014 #77

Well, one could look at the event as an opportunity to enjoy a cold beverage. MADem May 2014 #110

at this point I would say she has a mental issue snooper2 May 2014 #102

She has an odd right to be a hateful bigot--at least to a point. MADem May 2014 #113

maybe she's taken a page from Phelp's book. Be outrageously hateful in public KittyWampus May 2014 #124

She was practically inviting someone to attack her. Terra Alta May 2014 #38

These are the folks who would probably send gays to concentration camps if they could. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #17

her sign makes no sense Skittles May 2014 #26

Neither does the top she's wearing... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #95

Great she went to being a corner nobody to on the news because dilby May 2014 #27

so this bigot got a Slushee thrown at her. Terra Alta May 2014 #29

Throwing a slushee is an act of violence? backscatter712 May 2014 #39

Throwing a slushee doesn't count? seveneyes May 2014 #44

Public officials have gotten pied in the face... backscatter712 May 2014 #46

it's different because Obama is a public official Terra Alta May 2014 #52

"she deserved what she got"... egduj May 2014 #65

the difference is that this woman is an instigator Terra Alta May 2014 #67

and someone else was just a slut who wanted to get laid and get sympathy magical thyme May 2014 #98

That comparison only works if you thinking dressing a certain way, and spewing hate toward innocent nomorenomore08 May 2014 #78

She deserved what she got for spewing her fucking bigotry. backscatter712 May 2014 #123

Obama .....try doing it to a cop oneofthe99 May 2014 #63

specifically, it is battery arely staircase May 2014 #54

Oh, I DEFINITELY saw a misdemeanor assault take place. Don't know about you. Systematic Chaos May 2014 #61

I'm surprised that people think this way jberryhill May 2014 #79

I think it's being fed up with senseless bigotry that gets people hurt, and sometimes killed. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #80

There's always a reason for violence jberryhill May 2014 #82

Very true. I'm not elated about what happened, but I understand why, especially if the thrower nomorenomore08 May 2014 #83

I agree, but we seem to be in the minority here. FiveGoodMen May 2014 #118

Hystrionic personality, maybe? Ilsa May 2014 #47

Link to the story with video and a pic of a clever retort!: NYC_SKP May 2014 #53

now THAT is the proper way to deal with such people. nt arely staircase May 2014 #56

This poor woman needs mental health help bad Nobel_Twaddle_III May 2014 #66

That sign was a big "Pour a Slushy On Me" sign Lex May 2014 #69

That poor Slushee n/t Violet_Crumble May 2014 #73

not to hijack a thread but regarding your sig line arely staircase May 2014 #74

Plus Ian Astbury's always been a bit of a wanker... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #96

To those who feel sorry for her - what if she'd help up a sign with "I HATE NI**ERS" or something nomorenomore08 May 2014 #84

Still more evidence that being a self-righteous a-hole is a contagious disease struggle4progress May 2014 #85

When they gave out brains, HockeyMom May 2014 #91

Thank the young woman... Orsino May 2014 #94

For those who approve of the reaction sarisataka May 2014 #100

I note the energetic and passionate disapproval for her actions which is much greater than Bluenorthwest May 2014 #104

Africa is a bit far for me sarisataka May 2014 #106

My post was not entirely about Africa, and even the bits that are were presented in the context Bluenorthwest May 2014 #108

What did I not comment on? sarisataka May 2014 #109

How many DUers do you see defending those pogroms? Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #122

For this, I would say the sandwich and fries are okay. ieoeja May 2014 #105

I cannot think of any words sarisataka May 2014 #107

"I equate "espousing bigotry" with "picking a fight"." jberryhill May 2014 #112

I'd say... FiveGoodMen May 2014 #119

I cannot condone Billy Budd May 2014 #103

John Lennon called it Instant Karma. SwankyXomb May 2014 #117