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merrily

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97. Being a socialist in TN can't be easy. Respect.

Wed May 14, 2014, 03:58 AM

May 2014

Your view is kind of the one that I have been coming to, with some exceptions.

For one thing, I don't think that the counterweight is gone. The anti-left movement is alive and well, even at DU.

Also, I don't think we have only one counterweight. We will always be demonizing one or more "others," even if the others are leftist Americans. Or, for that matter, rightist Americans. Moreover, we seem to be in nouveau anti-Soviet mode, even as we type.

Besides, Winston, as you know, we've always been at war with Eastasia.

And need to be. It's very useful in many ways.

I do think the fear of a people's uprising has diminished, though. Well, maybe not the fear of an uprising, but I don't think they fear a successful uprising. That was one of many advantages of 911. We now have the federal government officially all over the US in the form of Homeland Security, the NSA, etc. They are well-armed and we are well-surveilled. I think they are now relatively confident that any uprising will be quelled before it can hurt them. And, they may be correct about that.

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How the Left Cut Down a Democratic Frontrunner [View all] DonViejo May 2014 OP

Shades of Ned Lamont Blue_Tires May 2014 #1

This immediately made me think of Ned Lamont too. myrna minx May 2014 #3

Lamont was not a liberal, just seemed more liberal than Joe. merrily May 2014 #13

The GOP candidate was dead in the water Blue_Tires May 2014 #63

I don't think it was an accident that the GOP candidate was dead in the water. merrily May 2014 #64

If the left pushes back against the "third way" the left is the villain, but if the third way myrna minx May 2014 #2

You noticed that too, huh? Scuba May 2014 #6

Understand.... HooptieWagon May 2014 #7

your last sentence explains the dynamic perfectly. the Rahmbos treat Repubs with kid gloves yurbud May 2014 #35

Perfect analogy, Yurbud. But as the election draws closer, we can expect more handy narratives... villager May 2014 #66

and no matter how few Republicans, centrists will have no choice but to compromise with them yurbud May 2014 #76

Exactly. As long as there is a single Republican anywhere, their agenda must be enacted. villager May 2014 #77

and bipartisan. Unless that single Republican suggests something rich people don't like yurbud May 2014 #93

Very well said! scarletwoman May 2014 #8

Nailed it. merrily May 2014 #14

Booom! Fumesucker May 2014 #17

that's how it will play in the press--even if the "sensible centrist" loses the general election yurbud May 2014 #34

And, while "centrist" my be a slur some places, it garners support and big boxes of money elsewhere Doctor_J May 2014 #42

Yes, lots of whining and scapegoating in defense of a mediocre candidate here. pa28 May 2014 #47

Shhh!!!! now here are a bunch of blue links that prove why you are wrong! bobduca May 2014 #82

... SammyWinstonJack May 2014 #102

Or Bill Halter in Arkansas........ socialist_n_TN May 2014 #87

Not the left's fault. Not about marketing, about leadership. Her fault on point May 2014 #4

True, but also, how about the centrist ad diminishing Warren and DeBlasio? merrily May 2014 #36

Yes, it is exactly about marketing. Wolf used $10 Million of his own money to come out early okaawhatever May 2014 #45

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I am not really about process hfojvt May 2014 #92

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Excellent synopsis. blue neen May 2014 #71

Meet Tom Wolf WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #74

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Here we go... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #9

Exactly what many here want to do to Hillary Clinton. Nye Bevan May 2014 #10

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He didn't run as a socialist and he sure as hell hasn't governed that way. merrily May 2014 #30

Don't worry ...Hillary is doing it to herself. L0oniX May 2014 #23

... Phlem May 2014 #37

of course we do Enrique May 2014 #50

The Left didn't cut her down... HooptieWagon May 2014 #11

agreed. the third way party chose that moment to highlight magical thyme May 2014 #15

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Nice cliff hanger Capt. Obvious May 2014 #12

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Very accurate portrayal of what Warren accomplished in that race Capt. Obvious May 2014 #24

I live in Massachusetts. merrily May 2014 #31

There's a faction of membership here Capt. Obvious May 2014 #39

Don't know about misrespresentation of Mass. politics, but it's merrily May 2014 #41

lol, bashing lefties already. I expected that season to arrive later quinnox May 2014 #18

Leftist bashing is always in season for both Democrats and Republicans. merrily May 2014 #20

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A Kabuki Theater bobduca May 2014 #83

Which also explains their ultra-thin skins. They love bullying, snark, and shout-downs, but alert on villager May 2014 #94

And, I'm willing to bet fredamae May 2014 #19

Are you implying that "they" would not go after any Democrat? merrily May 2014 #32

Thanks for asking fredamae May 2014 #46

I understood about shutting out the ads. merrily May 2014 #53

Ahhh, I see fredamae May 2014 #58

Me, too. merrily May 2014 #62

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You are stating a more conventional view. merrily May 2014 #68

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Being a socialist in TN can't be easy. Respect. merrily May 2014 #97

Well being a socialist in TN is lonely sometimes for sure......... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #99

Yes, I did get from your first post that you meant the USSR. merrily May 2014 #100

Nope we're not in a revolutionary or even a pre-revolutionary situation.... socialist_n_TN May 2014 #105

Centrists are to be blamed for their own loss ...and ya better take this as a warning. L0oniX May 2014 #21

Yeah-- this script never changes. When Third Way types win... Marr May 2014 #26

Centrists win by trolling for repuke votes. L0oniX May 2014 #28

In the wrong way. merrily May 2014 #69

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Its a difficult maneuver, co-opting "The Left" while simultaneously vilifying it bobduca May 2014 #85

What a misleading headline! merrily May 2014 #27

a popular tradition G_j May 2014 #48

I have never been a hippie, yet I object to the deceptive headline. merrily May 2014 #51

More lying from the Third Way. woo me with science May 2014 #81

I used to post on boards where all political views were welcome (in theory, anyway). merrily May 2014 #96

Awww how sad. JVS May 2014 #33

Per the linked article, she's a deficit hawk. Jim Lane May 2014 #38

History has shown that not only are centrists useless, they lose elections! reformist2 May 2014 #57

More facts: merrily May 2014 #40

inre: recruiting...exactomundo! HooptieWagon May 2014 #43

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Yes better update the labels for the cancer that is Third Way bobduca May 2014 #86

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good Enrique May 2014 #49

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