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In reply to the discussion: Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup." [View all]Tommy_Carcetti
(44,493 posts)And putting aside your strawmanning me, why did I create this thread?
It was out of frustration of people like you who threw around the word "coup" without understanding what that word means, and yet insist on the circular logic that it was a coup because you think it was a coup, so therefore it was a in fact a coup. As well as certain posters who point to certain journalists/pundits who likewise haphazardly refer to what occurred as a "coup", and then demand I defer to their punditry and expertise despite the fact that they have (deliberately or not) misused the word as well.
Let's be clear about things. The idea that what happened in Ukraine was a western sponsored coup--as that word is defined and understood--is a conspiracy theory. If you want to put forward that conspiracy theory, have at it. But you better damn well have some evidence in favor of it. That is your burden of proof. It is not mine. So claiming it was "obviously" a coup just doesn't cut it.
Let me best illustrate your logical problem in Underpants Gnomes fashion:
The Western Sponsored Coup of Ukraine
Phase One: Nuland's Cookies/$5 billion/Yatesnyuk's Website/Fuck the EU/McCain's farts
Phase Two: ???????
Phase Three: Coup! (Duh....)
You see the problem here?