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EvolveOrConvolve

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61. A couple of things

Wed May 14, 2014, 11:03 PM

May 2014

Just so posters who aren't hosts know what took place in the hosts forum. I'm not a GD host, but as the host of another group, I have access to the hosts forum. Note that per skinner, nothing in the hosts forum is confidential or secret.

1. A disgusting post was made that links to a nasty race-baiting right-wing website.
2. Several alerts came to the hosts group, where an OP was created for the alerts.
3. The hosts voted 6-4 to leave the thread, even though a similar post linking to Stormfront or The Blaze would have been shut down in a second.
4. At least one host has stepped down rather than implicitly support racist garbage at DU.
5. The situation has been escalated to the admin team that have, to date, done nothing to address the issue.

ucrdem is one of the hosts who voted to leave the racist post unlocked, and s/he now has taken it upon him/herself to post a "memo" purporting to be "from the DU Hosts forum", defending the decision, and attempting to speak for hosts that vehemently disagreed with the decision.

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This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid May 2014 #1

K&R! n/t RKP5637 May 2014 #2

do racist postings from racist websites meet the SOP of GD? boston bean May 2014 #3

That's for a jury to decide! Gormy Cuss May 2014 #45

Where do we look to find if the sources are credible when on a jury, ucr? Cha May 2014 #4

Good question Cha, I wish there was an easy answer ucrdem May 2014 #5

Got it..thanks again.. :) Cha May 2014 #8

Forget it CHA. William769 May 2014 #6

I think GD members are entitled to know what their options are alerters ucrdem May 2014 #9

And GD Hosts should know what there jobs are, which is clearly not the case. nt William769 May 2014 #10

I'm speaking as a current GD host. ucrdem May 2014 #13

I'm speaking as a former and future GD Host. William769 May 2014 #15

You don't seem to understand the job very well. ucrdem May 2014 #19

I understand all to well. and since the Hosts Forum is not secret William769 May 2014 #20

It's not up to me to decide what you can or cannot post on DU. ucrdem May 2014 #23

While I appreciate the post and it has a lot of great points maddezmom May 2014 #7

I am speaking from my experience as a GD host, yes. ucrdem May 2014 #12

It is a memo from you not from the host forum maddezmom May 2014 #21

If your experience as a current GD host is different I'll change the OP. ucrdem May 2014 #26

Not at this time, but I have served in the past. Was trying to be subtle but now I am going to be maddezmom May 2014 #29

If you would like to add anything please do. ucrdem May 2014 #43

Behave this way? You posted a META type thread in GD about the host forum maddezmom May 2014 #53

I wonder if the Admins could just add a greyed out disabled SOP choice on non-OP alerts. Make7 May 2014 #11

FWIW, if you want to post something racist in GD, the OP of this thead will defend it. LeftyMom May 2014 #14

... William769 May 2014 #16

That is grotesquely untrue and a disgusting thing to say. ucrdem May 2014 #17

There's no expectation of privacy in hosts, do you want me to C&P the whole thread? LeftyMom May 2014 #18

It's not up to me to decide what you can or cannot post on DU. ucrdem May 2014 #22

You have no business being a host then. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #56

+ 10000 After this stunt, they should definately step down. bettyellen May 2014 #60

I am curious. DURHAM D May 2014 #24

No, they didn't. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #25

I am not familiar with this poster. DURHAM D May 2014 #28

It doesn't. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #30

Seems like a process issue more than anything BainsBane May 2014 #41

Actually, many hosts disagree with his interpetation, so the OP is misleading. bettyellen May 2014 #49

be careful not to get plsyed here. there is much more going on. boston bean May 2014 #50

There certainly is. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #62

If your experience as a current GD host is different please let me know. nt ucrdem May 2014 #27

I am not a GD Host but DURHAM D May 2014 #31

I'm explaining several points that cause a lot confusion. ucrdem May 2014 #32

Okay. It is a stunt. DURHAM D May 2014 #33

Thanks for your input. ucrdem May 2014 #35

you do not have authority to speak to the hosts, it's embarrassing to watch. bettyellen May 2014 #51

bettyellen, we have responsibilities as hosts. ucrdem May 2014 #64

trying to cover the cover it seems. boston bean May 2014 #34

What exactly do find objectionable about the OP? ucrdem May 2014 #36

Since when do hosts "have a responsibility to set the tone of discussion Metatron May 2014 #40

what i find objectional is in knowing the backstory and reason for this post, boston bean May 2014 #42

What tone do you think was set by allowing a hate site spin like a turd in GD for 24 hours? Starry Messenger May 2014 #44

its like they think gd and du would be forever harmed with locking the thread. boston bean May 2014 #59

I get that people want to respect the process, but the dogmatic adherence to it was mind-blowing. Starry Messenger May 2014 #65

Yep DURHAM D May 2014 #38

We had an inactive MIRT member do it TBF May 2014 #48

Can you please explain what on earth you're tallking about? ucrdem May 2014 #54

I was responding to DURHAM D - TBF May 2014 #63

I'd like to add something BainsBane May 2014 #37

Respectfully, I ask you not to speak for me. ScreamingMeemie May 2014 #39

I'm not speaking for you and you're doing a fine job. ucrdem May 2014 #46

Unless other hosts asked you to speak for them could you correct the OP? It is very misleading. bettyellen May 2014 #47

What corrections are you looking for exactly? ucrdem May 2014 #52

"Memo from ucrdem...." or "Memo from a host..." This appears to be from a group, not your personal bettyellen May 2014 #55

Thanks for taking the time to explain. Nye Bevan May 2014 #57

Hosts have always had the authority to evaluate an OP based on the source used... SidDithers May 2014 #58

A couple of things EvolveOrConvolve May 2014 #61