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davidpdx

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159. First a few disclaimers

Thu May 15, 2014, 03:30 AM

May 2014

I don't like Glenn Greenwald, nor his politics. I voted against Hillary Clinton in the primary and would in 2016 because of her policies if she ran (I would reluctantly vote for her in the GE).

That being said I have seen one person thus far make such a comment. The person is a celebrity and was a supporter of Clinton in 2008. To the best of my knowledge, the person did not openly support Barack Obama (my guess is the person voted for him). The replies to the person's post were generally negative in terms of disagreeing with the person (which tells me it isn't something that would work).

Whether this becomes a mainstream argument or not, I have no idea (I hope it won't). All I'm saying is I have witnessed such an argument.

Last disclosure, I generally like the person who made the comment as I have seen the person in several television shows.

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Greenwald: Women will be invested in Hillary, opposition to her will be depicted as misogynistic [View all] Cali_Democrat May 2014 OP

Guess to avoid all this the only thing to do is only vote for straight white males. boston bean May 2014 #1

But as long as they are "progressive"! YoungDemCA May 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 May 2014 #71

Because "privileged" white males can't possibly be progressive davidn3600 May 2014 #25

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. NOT. boston bean May 2014 #28

Well, that privileged white male sure as shit ain't. GG is pretty msanthrope May 2014 #37

Libertarians are NOT Progressive no matter how much they wish for it.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #54

Or Elizabeth Warren. Or Bernie Sanders who is not wedded to Goldman-Sachs and Citi-Bank. JDPriestly May 2014 #158

What an asshole YoungDemCA May 2014 #2

I guess anyone who votes for Hillary is just Misandrist by his perception.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #55

It's been a few days Capt. Obvious May 2014 #3

There will be some like that, no question quinnox May 2014 #5

You know, my father is gay. I have nothing against gay people. At all. randome May 2014 #6

Using Limbaugh's talking points is always a winner. JoePhilly May 2014 #7

Yep... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #10

You'd think ... JoePhilly May 2014 #12

Yeap uponit7771 May 2014 #97

He's not wrong... Mr_Harshaw May 2014 #8

We have a +600 post example of what Greenwald is talking about right here: NOVA_Dem May 2014 #16

Okay. OilemFirchen May 2014 #89

He is....not new though uponit7771 May 2014 #98

So opposition to her won't be largely misogynist? Opposition to Obama isn't largely racist? KittyWampus May 2014 #9

In a way, yes. I wish Greenwald used "largely" as a qualifier. alp227 May 2014 #69

I am so sorry I clicked on your link (jaw dropping). Not a fan of crudity like that. KittyWampus May 2014 #90

Not this woman. SamKnause May 2014 #11

The GOP thanks you. JoePhilly May 2014 #13

You will not shame me SamKnause May 2014 #15

Didn't try to shame you. JoePhilly May 2014 #51

And Wall Street knows that a vote for Hillary is a vote for the oligarchy. JDPriestly May 2014 #160

There's that civic duty shining through! OilemFirchen May 2014 #92

My, what arrogance you have in chastising someone for voting as their conscience dictates. Jake Stern May 2014 #124

This is "Democratic" Underground, you know. MADem May 2014 #151

Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable posting on a site that doesn't have a "partisan" mission? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #162

And a Republican in the WH will? Beacool May 2014 #164

Because, of course, wickerwoman May 2014 #36

They thank you as well. Either they win or one of ours pushes their agenda and we get the blame. TheKentuckian May 2014 #44

No. The GOP should thank the Democrats for moving to the right. Dawgs May 2014 #59

And the 1% thanks you for supporting corporatists Doctor_J May 2014 #146

Stop with all this "conscience" blather and vote with the rest of the herd. Moooooooo! Jake Stern May 2014 #21

The republicans thank you leftynyc May 2014 #24

See post #59. You're blaming the wrong people. n/t Dawgs May 2014 #60

No, I'm not leftynyc May 2014 #161

The BOG condemns you Capt. Obvious May 2014 #27

yes. the GOP thanks you. pansypoo53219 May 2014 #46

might find it more productive to get a young person out to vote G_j May 2014 #140

My (and others) thoughts exactly. PFunk May 2014 #130

+1000. It's Sanders or nobody for me. Katashi_itto May 2014 #144

Just out of curiosity... Scootaloo May 2014 #14

I know, he's just describing DU ca. 2008. JackRiddler May 2014 #17

Which is strange, considering one such poster just HATED Clinton back then! Scootaloo May 2014 #19

I'll vote for Clinton if she is the best candidate notadmblnd May 2014 #32

You beat me to it. temporary311 May 2014 #18

Primary fights always get ugly, but the fact is that most of the party JI7 May 2014 #68

Ask yourself why this mf'er is obsessed with the possible Dem nominee, and not the Repuke. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #20

Because, barring any shennanigans, temporary311 May 2014 #22

That's "a reason", but I don't think it's GG's "reason". Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #23

I KNOW THE ANSWER Capt. Obvious May 2014 #29

That is EXACTLY what he is doing. joshcryer May 2014 #145

It's interesting Cali_Democrat May 2014 #34

What an asshole. I'm not surprised that he pre-emptively went after "a gay candidate". In all his Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #39

+++ Whisp May 2014 #41

+1 sheshe2 May 2014 #106

The virulence of the attack is personal. Beacool May 2014 #165

Yeap uponit7771 May 2014 #99

Money. joshcryer May 2014 #127

Yup. That way, the Kochs and the CATO Institute get their money's worth. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #135

The great right wing conspiracy is real. joshcryer May 2014 #136

Which explains his love of the Citizens United decision. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #138

And association with billionaire Pierre Omidyar. joshcryer May 2014 #141

Oh, he loves the company of billionaires. CATO, aka Koch-topia, is fully funded by them. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #148

He really is quite the dick, isn't he? leftynyc May 2014 #26

Note to Greenwald onecaliberal May 2014 #30

Well said. And welcome to DU. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #56

Thank You! onecaliberal May 2014 #64

Like I would ever listen to his libertarian nonsense Peacetrain May 2014 #31

Opposition to Obama HASN'T been labelled racist Prophet 451 May 2014 #33

Come on, let's be honest. Skip Intro May 2014 #48

I imagine that there are those who will critiicize Hillary out of sexism-- Louisiana1976 May 2014 #61

Would the birther thing have happened if Obama was a white man? Cali_Democrat May 2014 #63

Birtherism is racist but Clinton had it worse than Obama IMO. NOVA_Dem May 2014 #66

Mostly this, pretty much. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #74

Yeah, so? lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #35

Thank God we have Greenwald wickerwoman May 2014 #38

Greenwald may know some things KT2000 May 2014 #40

"does not know women very well" alp227 May 2014 #76

But he did work with Laura Poitras to get Snowden's intel out of Hong Kong and to the Guardian. ancianita May 2014 #88

Did not know he was gay KT2000 May 2014 #117

If this asshole said water is wet I would have trouble agreeing with him. Whisp May 2014 #42

That probably reflects on you as much as him. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #100

Strange how Glenn does not go after the Republican nominees. Dawson Leery May 2014 #43

That jumped out at me as well. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #45

I have no use for him. Dawson Leery May 2014 #50

That makes two of us. And I don't buy that race doesn't play a role here. Who defends an avowed... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #53

Greenwald and Snowden's libertarianism needs to be brought into consideration Dawson Leery May 2014 #65

Critical? Until Obama, Snowie thought "leakers should be shot in the balls". Remember this? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #83

This is why I question his motives. Dawson Leery May 2014 #132

In one of his internet diatribes, he pretty much called old folks, deadbeats. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #137

Snowden now says that he's changed his previous views. His days in Geneva changed him. ancianita May 2014 #85

What date did he change his views? He thought "leakers should be shot in the balls" in 2009. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #103

Oh those pesky facts... giftedgirl77 May 2014 #107

Yes, gifted, ALL those pesky facts. ancianita May 2014 #119

Are you choosing to ignore them? giftedgirl77 May 2014 #120

See my quote of Snowden about his politics. His words as pesky facts must also stand. ancianita May 2014 #122

So what if it isn't? You're still representing how he WAS with how he IS. In his own words: ancianita May 2014 #118

Thank you. Now pull the other one. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #134

There aren't any Scootaloo May 2014 #73

That's 'cause he's gonna be stumping for Rand Paul. NT Adrahil May 2014 #125

Well he *did* write an entire book bashing republicans. yodermon May 2014 #152

GG's comment is misogynistic. He thinks women will be driven by their emotions pnwmom May 2014 #47

"He thinks women will be driven by their emotions". Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #57

Fuck Greenwald... Spazito May 2014 #49

You got that right! Not only is he misogynist, he's a poor writer. randome May 2014 #128

Yep, the more he writes, the more obvious he becomes n/t Spazito May 2014 #131

Why do you care so much what this guy says will happen? Demit May 2014 #52

what a misogynistic asshole. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #58

Opposition to Obama is depicted as racist because in many cases it's just plain racist. abelenkpe May 2014 #62

In terms of the right-wing, that is certainly very much true. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #79

Exactly...maybe I should have abelenkpe May 2014 #129

FOOK! I was listening to Terry Gross interview with Greenwald today on NPR. alp227 May 2014 #67

Is he wrong? alarimer May 2014 #70

If Hillary runs and there isn't a better candidate I will support her justiceischeap May 2014 #75

Well done, justiceischeap~ nm Cha May 2014 #112

This. Never been a huge Hillary supporter but Skidmore May 2014 #168

He gets half credit for "women in America are going to be completely invested" alp227 May 2014 #78

"Opposition labeled as misogynistic" is wrong. joshcryer May 2014 #142

this reminds me of when Arnold was running for Governor, he went on Leno and said there will JI7 May 2014 #72

He's kind of miserable, isn't he? BeyondGeography May 2014 #77

Oooooh, preemptive defense! frazzled May 2014 #80

Nailed it...nt SidDithers May 2014 #95

Home run. That's exactly what this is. joshcryer May 2014 #143

I wonder why women weren't completely invested in Sarah Palin wheniwasincongress May 2014 #81

No validity to criticizing the Clinton Dynasty? turk151 May 2014 #82

New York Snow? hrmjustin May 2014 #91

I think it's a reference to the song Betty Davis Eyes - "She's as pure as NY snow" bettyellen May 2014 #166

What? Agschmid May 2014 #94

"I get that New York Snow feeling". What do you mean by this? octoberlib May 2014 #114

Right. Anyone who votes for Obama is a reverse-racist. randome May 2014 #126

While I'm not fan of Hillary, he says that like it's a bad thing. Chan790 May 2014 #84

This female isn't 'invested' in Hillary at all. I won't octoberlib May 2014 #86

just another asswipe that states women waste their votes Sheepshank May 2014 #87

Saw a woman post here complaining about women voting- for Warren G Harding, LOL! bettyellen May 2014 #167

Nice pic.. his vicious persona is written all over his ugly face. Go get Cha May 2014 #93

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that picture Cha~ sheshe2 May 2014 #102

Sorry, Cha May 2014 #104

My dear Cha! sheshe2 May 2014 #108

Right.. it should be Cha May 2014 #110

"They’ll probably have a gay person after Hillary who’s just going to do the same thing." pinto May 2014 #96

HAH ... " ... been around forever" lpbk2713 May 2014 #101

dickheads arely staircase May 2014 #105

he must be lurking around here at du Niceguy1 May 2014 #109

I would like to think not, but Jamaal510 May 2014 #121

I can fill a post with links Niceguy1 May 2014 #150

dupe Vattel May 2014 #111

I guess we should consider voting Republican seeing as how horrible our candidates are. DCBob May 2014 #113

He's such an asshole and he proves it over and over again. Pirate Smile May 2014 #115

Depicted? Well, we will see how misogynistic the country is WhiteTara May 2014 #116

Roger Ailes should seriously consider hiring this dude. nt Jamaal510 May 2014 #123

if the Republicans can say something they would say to a MAN, then no steve2470 May 2014 #133

quite true. I will vote for her, and then bitch while she continues the Doctor_J May 2014 #139

Concussion and Senior Citizens... is it misogynistic to ask about THAT? cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #147

"Report claims Anonymous will protest Glenn Greenwald for ties to PayPal billionaire" Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #149

Interesting. Whisp May 2014 #154

I think decent people find GG's passion for $$$$ to be antithetical to the things they actually care Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #163

Contrast the following statements: yodermon May 2014 #153

#2 is not a sentence. Whisp May 2014 #155

Meh. If I am "invested" it will be because she is the D candidate. MadrasT May 2014 #156

This pretty much says it about the NSA: JDPriestly May 2014 #157

First a few disclaimers davidpdx May 2014 #159