Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

118. I've done reading of many materials from many different sources.

And I've seen stuff by some people who assert the things you assert and claim them to be evidence of a greater, western-sponsored coup d'état. I've heard the Nuland tapes, I've seen the videos.

But just because someone prints something in a paper or on a website doesn't mean I'm obligated to believe it. And yes, you could be a storied investigative journalist from the 1980s, but if what you are printing in 2014 is nothing but blatant, in your face propagandized and manipulative half-truths, I don't care who you are.

And nothing--nothing--I've read by anyone (nor nothing I've seen or watched) has ever explained how this "coup" took place. There's never been anything showing how exactly Yanukovych was forcibly removed from office, or who exactly the group of conspirators supposedly leading the effort to forcibly remove him actually were. Nothing of the sort.

All I've heard are random tidbits here and there of various curiosities which shed no light whatsoever as to the events of February 21-22, 2014.

The only thing I've seen that explains anything about Victor Yanukovych on February 21-22, 2014 were the surveillance tapes from his own house, which shows a huge trove of valuable possessions being loaded up as he casually watches, and then he gets into his own helicopters and flies away. Which pretty much convinces me that there was no one forcing him to leave; he just up and left. And while there was a regime change afterwards, by its very definition this was not a coup.