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In reply to the discussion: Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup." [View all]go west young man
(4,856 posts)till you got to the "I'm not an idiot part".....then it was all downhill. I was green in 1990 after I read Al Gores first book and I am and always have been as progressive as they come. Judging from the level of time and vitriol you have spent with demagoguery in regards to myself....I would venture to guess that you are of the type that "isn't that thing" until "that thing is in your face and has become the new reality, which you are then and now forced to a accept".
I understand your desire to negate my points and push down my character.....it doesn't fit your mold of a true flag waving patriot. I told you before....I am not a nationalist.....I am a citizen of the world....a human being first and foremost....embrace your flag......feel free. The irony is that sometimes that which helps your country evolve comes from the most unlikely places.....and sometimes you have to go down a bit so you can come back up again and "Rise like the Phoenix". It's called hubris and humility. Something that is lacking in our national debate these days....and something that has shown it's head in Ukraine with the absolutely stupidest geo-political blunder of the new millennium...one that I feel is even more ridiculous than the lie of the Iraq War.
It hasn't ended in the deaths of a million people yet, but it had and has the potential to end in the deaths of all of us if things were to spiral out of control. In a nutshell....it was fucking stupid.....and myself and others pointed that out to many here long ago.......only to be labeled as Putinista's. Have a nice day and enjoy your delusion.